Another food update?

[Kimble]

People rarely use food since abyssea came out. They don't see the point with all their god mode atmas. B4 abyssea most players used food to maximize their acc, attk, or what have you. Crafting of consumables being broken is directly related to abyssea. Period.

As far as 1/2 the foods out there being useless that is nothing new. Except in cases where those foods are part of a higher level synth.

The good players till use food and the bad players still dont. You arent always auto capped on attack like people seem to like to believe. Almost always useful to use a form of attack food even inside abyssea.

[Urat]

Do you know why so many food pages on wiki are lacking of info? Well, people do like to play hide and seek with information so where are the findings?

Because we assume a level 36 crafted food wont have nearly as good stats as something made at level 80+

So what's the point of looking at the stats on food that you already know isn't as good as something else? That's we have the most knowledge of food in chunks of concentrated levels.

And afaik the majority of food we do know the major stats of. Maybe some have hidden effects, which is too much effort to find.

Which is where we go back to what I stated as a balance; Have hidden effects, don't tell us, but hint at them in the foods text, ala rusks/macarons. With a semi subtle hint the userbase can probably figure something out quickly. It took us about 1 month to figure out rusks and macarons.

Do more stuff like this SE, if you had a guy spend half an hour and go through hidden effect foods and change their text to add a subtle hint about their hidden effect, you'd probably please the majority of the playerbase thoroughly, along with rejuvenating many foods as we discover they don't suck as much as we thought, providing new sources of income for players and sources of demand for materials that are out of use.

Hopefully SE reads this.

[Vold]

oh lord... Ok first off...

You guys that are role playing this, IT'S A GAME! you're not actually shoving the food into your real life mouth. There is no reason to have a nutrition label on each and single piece of food... seriously you take it too far when you say 'Food in ffxi doesn't work like it should in real life!'

FFXI != Real life
There is no fatigue. There is no hunger. There is no need for water/juice/etc.
In fact there isn't a 'need' for food at all in game. You use it because you want to. NOT because you need to eat/drink.

There's a reason SE doesn't come out and tell you what a specific food does. If you knew that a piece of food only increased 1 stat, what's the point of even making/trying to sell/ even using it? There would be no point what so ever. That's the reason SE doesn't tell us. They want us to use it, to figure it out ourselves. If you don't like doing that, stick with what you know, and eat food that's already had it's effects found by those who LIKE to experiment.

Food bonuses should not have to be spelled out for anyone.

I'm all for a mystery that lasts as long as it takes to craft a food item, pop it, and figure out the stats. But it's a terrible waste of the developers and our time when there are hidden stats that can't be tested simply because no one could have imagined it existing. Who's going to be sitting there going, "lalalala hey, I think I'm going to try this new food that has no reference or clue to what it gives and see if it increases combat and magical skill gains!" No one. At all. Ever. EVER. I for one welcome any wisdom bestowed upon us regarding such items in the game.

Right now I just want to know one thing. Which of the foods gives Treasure Hunter +1. That is all.

That's my new thing to do now, as a matter of fact. I'm going on a crusade to find out whether or not TH food exists. One food at a time, waiting for that TH proc to show +1. And if it doesn't exist yet then HINT HINT HINT.

[Malamasala]

Do more stuff like this SE, if you had a guy spend half an hour and go through hidden effect foods and change their text to add a subtle hint about their hidden effect, you'd probably please the majority of the playerbase thoroughly, along with rejuvenating many foods as we discover they don't suck as much as we thought, providing new sources of income for players and sources of demand for materials that are out of use.

This is one, out of a hundred, "why didn't they do this to begin with" topics. One could easily think FFXI is SE's first game ever. I don't even recall them adding items in single player games that didn't state anything about what they did. And if they did, I probably never used them.

[Zaknafein]

Might want to look at your gear before commenting on mine =)

What is that? "I know you are, but what am I?"

You commented on my gear 1st genius, and if you are saying your selection is more comprehensive you need a new prescription.

I don't know why you feel the need to follow me around on FFxiah, and now here quoting me, and writing out something you think is snarky, but just sounds lame or misinformed. Your level 20 w/e cooking make you an expert on consumables now homey?

[Serj]

What is that? "I know you are, but what am I?"

You commented on my gear 1st genius, and if you are saying your selection is more comprehensive you need a new prescription.

I don't know why you feel the need to follow me around on FFxiah, and now here quoting me, and writing out something you think is snarky, but just sounds lame or misinformed. Your level 20 w/e cooking make you an expert on consumables now homey?

Stop raging so much. You're throwing out insults that don't pertain to me. I am better than you in every way possible, which is a fact. Also, just because my thf is lvl 37 means I don't know that your thf is geared incorrectly? Lolrite.

I know a lot about game mechanics and saying you don't need food in "easy mode" abyssea is misinformed and incorrect. I simply corrected you and stated how the market hasn't crashed because almost all foods have uses still, especially melee foods.

[Zaknafein]

Stop raging so much. You're throwing out insults that don't pertain to me. I am better than you in every way possible, which is a fact. Also, just because my thf is lvl 37 means I don't know that your thf is geared incorrectly? Lolrite.

I know a lot about game mechanics and saying you don't need food in "easy mode" abyssea is misinformed and incorrect. I simply corrected you and stated how the market hasn't crashed because almost all foods have uses still, especially melee foods.

A) I never said you didn't need food in abyssea. I said noobs don't use food, because of their "god mode" syndrome brought on by if they have a few decent atmas it allows them to coast.

B) Your fancy game mechanics must have missed a memo because your main DD job is rocking 24% haste. Your sooo pro hahahaha!

[Kimble]

A) I never said you didn't need food in abyssea. I said noobs don't use food, because of their "god mode" syndrome brought on by if they have a few decent atmas it allows them to coast.

B) Your fancy game mechanics must have missed a memo because your main DD job is rocking 24% haste. Your sooo pro hahahaha!

Noobs didnt use food before abyssea. Stop acting like abyssea made everyone worse. They were bad before and they are just as bad after.

Its funny putting down brown belt. Its not like Black Belt is the easiest thing to get. And what are you suppose to do before black belt? Not play mnk?

[Zaknafein]

Noobs didnt use food before abyssea. Stop acting like abyssea made everyone worse. They were bad before and they are just as bad after.

Its funny putting down brown belt. Its not like Black Belt is the easiest thing to get. And what are you suppose to do before black belt? Not play mnk?

I'm not the one here boasting about my intricate wealth of knowledge on game mechanics while pumping out 24% haste on my main DD job. The guy pops into a thread I'm in on several occasions recently on 2 different sites to be Snarky Mc Snarkster. I'm just replying to him. Sue me.

[Serj]

I'm not the one here boasting about my intricate wealth of knowledge on game mechanics while pumping out 24% haste on my main DD job. The guy pops into a thread I'm in on several occasions recently on 2 different sites to be Snarky Mc Snarkster. I'm just replying to him. Sue me.

I've mathed it out that my current set gives the largest boost I can use currently. Fumas (and usu feet) lower my dps slightly. 1/3 on black belt, will finish it off sometime past thursday when my vereth is 85. I have decent priorities.

Anything else?