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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    I have no idea how you can not have hundreds of stones stacked unless :

    * you started abyssea very recently
    * you only solo
    * you play 100% of the time in abyssea without getting crap.

    I got full AF3+2 and empy like a big numbers of players and I have 250 stones. You need ~50 stones for full level 90 empy and full AF3+2 if you play normally. Of course if you solo everything that's another problem but please don't come giving us lesson on how stone farming is anywhere something needed.
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    Player Modoru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    * you started abyssea very recently
    This is my case, I've had less than 10 stones at one time in my entire abyssea life [aka since last month]. I still need to finish getting the time/stone abyssites, 48min per stone is very desirable.

    On the topic of food, first post forgot to include the RNG food, the Pot-au-feu? the acc foods, mainly all those sushi everyone gets... stuff like that, y'know?
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    Oh great, putain-chan is on SE forums.

    On topic, if stones aren't an issue than the rest of the argument is still valid. Just replace "save stones" with "relax and do something else". Faster you kill after proc, faster you pop next pops, faster you get all your drops, faster you are done with the content. More time you have to spend doing other content, or more time you have to do something else completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Oh great, putain-chan is on SE forums.

    On topic, if stones aren't an issue than the rest of the argument is still valid. Just replace "save stones" with "relax and do something else". Faster you kill after proc, faster you pop next pops, faster you get all your drops, faster you are done with the content. More time you have to spend doing other content, or more time you have to do something else completely.
    I'm sorry...did...you...say OTHER content...there is OTHER CONTENT IN THIS GAME!?

    lol 70 was being generous, i have seriously went from 78 stones to below 20 doing so much random crap, including doing gun by my self. So the "relax and do something else" would definatly apply in my case. but to be fair i wasn't careing about stones and just dumping them into the npc like they were going out of style.

    Oh great, putain-chan is on SE forums.
    You need to remember the general rule about stray animals, if you don't feed them, they won't come back.
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    I have over 1000 stones on both my characters. But then again I don't whore abyssea like everyone else. It's old content to me.
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    A few foods ive wanted to know the stats of since they're almost impossible to test are:

    -Macarons
    -Rusks
    -Crepes

    Mind giving us a little breakdown on these elusive stats? There are theories about what they do but solid evidence would be great.
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    wow I hoped anything new would be in here, but no
    Tried Saltena, happy skillupping till ~198-200 (best was till early 180s) with GAX
    Rried Elshena and Saltena und different mobs between 200 and 225. No higher skillgains worth mentioning. 3 hours for 200-225.
    Got a SINGLE 0.4 Parrying skillup, while using saltena. With Elshena nothing.
    So while Saltena helps clearly with skillups, Elshena does (if anyhow) barely anything.

    Tested Saltena on different Jobs and skillups were faster till 200 compared to without the food.

    Now I am confused if the foods just work for certain Weapontypes (single, bi handed) or if it all just just a big "in your face" type of food that just has a placebo effect
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    If anyone was interested, you could test it on the test server by de-levelling to 1, then popping back up to 99 without setting your skills. Then you could attack fortalices for an hour, record your skillups, then go back to MH to do it all over again with food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    If anyone was interested, you could test it on the test server by de-levelling to 1, then popping back up to 99 without setting your skills. Then you could attack fortalices for an hour, record your skillups, then go back to MH to do it all over again with food.
    That is an interesting idea to remove a lot of the confounding factors, but I thought that raising your level automatically capped skills now.
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    That is an interesting idea to remove a lot of the confounding factors, but I thought that raising your level automatically capped skills now.
    It does?

    lame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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