Why does Retaliation counters gain TP but not MNK's counter?

[Karbuncle]

I always think its silly when MNKs/NIN and use counterstance. All you do is open yourself up to more damage from TP moves. Perfect counter alone is enough to keep shadows up at all times.

That depends completely on what you're fighting.

Take Gamayun for Example, She'll eat your shadows like no ones business then proceed to rape you. Seeing a MNK try to tank without putting up counterstance is like Pulling teeth when you're the WHM.

I'd rather cure bomb after a strong TP move than Cure bomb every 2-3 attack rounds thanks to no Counter-rate and the MNK eating every attack, .

Plus you waste a lot of Damage putting up shadows, in most cases you're better off /war and counter-stance face-tanking.

(In abyssea of course, If you meant elsewhere sorry!)

[Taint2]

Plus you waste a lot of Damage putting up shadows, in most cases you're better off /war and counter-stance face-tanking.

(In abyssea of course, If you meant elsewhere sorry!)

I guess thats my point if you are counter tanking why not just go /war.

[Greatguardian]

Mnk/Nin is a decent compromise for things that aren't complete trash, yet aren't AV. I'll use it if I'm fighting Alfard, or Pantokrator. I don't fulltime shadows, though. That's a huge drop in DPS. I just fulltime counterstance and then cast Ni whenever it's applicable (inc TP move, single-target spell, or when I have to turn).