The real problem with PLD

[Xellith]

Pld needs ability that can be put up and be sustained that raises the plds enmity cap. This would help atonement dmg too. But yea.. not like anyone is reading this who needs to..

[Bumbeen]

Only with the best gear in the game.

Get the best gear in the game then?

[Xellith]

Get the best gear in the game then?

Easier said than done. Please keep your comments constructive instead of post count +1.

[Bumbeen]

Easier said than done. Please keep your comments constructive instead of post count +1.

Why should it be easy? I'm getting the impression this thread is "I can't get aegis or ochain, so SE please give me the bonuses these items provide as JAs and JTs and spells instead."

Why should SE just give you the ability to be as good as the best geared plds without having to do the quests and content that they did?

And, back when pld was useful at 75, none of my LS plds had aegis, and we did all 75 content sans AV just fine. So I would agree with get better mages.

[Zagen]

Pld needs ability that can be put up and be sustained that raises the plds enmity cap. This would help atonement dmg too. But yea.. not like anyone is reading this who needs to..

.... seriously... do you guys not have a clue why PLD isn't used at all?
If a DD can keep hate from a Mage the whole fight PLD could have 100 times the Enmity of the DD they still aren't worth the party slot...
PLD can hold hate, PLD can cap hate. A DD just does it faster.

Edit: As to gear being hard to get I've gotten all my PLD's gear(2/5 +2ed the rest +1) with 3-4 people who started out in AF/Aurore/Perle/Teal armor >.> This game isn't hard if you try.

It was funny showing up with a Pink/Emp+1 THF, AF/Relic RDM, and AF/Noble's WHM taking down Ironclad in Grauberg only to have to compete against LSs with full +1/2 Emp armor.

[Unleashhell]

Only with the best gear in the game.

Ok. So why is it so hard for you to obtain +1 or +2 Empyrean armor? Seriously do you not have friends or something? Do you not have a Linkshell willing to help you? If you don't have either of those then nothing can help you. I would suggest finding a new linkshell that is more Abyssea active to help you get the right atmas and better gear. If you are one of those Perle PLD then I can see why you take tons of damage. What gear do you normally use if I may ask?

[Greatguardian]

Gear is only going to do so much if you're trying to take hits on PLD/WAR anyways.

There really is a reason that no one (who knew what they were using) used WAR sub on more than 1-2 mobs in the entire game post-70.

[Nawesemo]

Cover!!! Can I have it? Can I find a pld that don't blow his sentinel, for no apparent reason, and one that can use flash effectively instead of spam it? And don't get me started on the ones who refuse to cure themselves and scream "cure vi can I have it?". Sitting on 490/490 mp,,....... I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say ya just never seen it done right yo!!!!!

[Vagrua]

There isn't a single job in the game that isn't total crap when wearing total crap gear so I don't see your point.

I agree with you.

A pld can do decent without Aegis/ochain. You just won't do as well as those plds with them would.

Aegis helps some with the -mdt on A LOT of new NMs, but plds can still reach the 50% cap with gear.

As for ochain, plds still block a lot with capped shield skill without it, just not crazy like an ochain does. A real pld will spam reprisal every 2 minutes. Phalanx/Sentinel also helps.

The tools are there for you to play the job, you just have to use them.

On another note, I also agree that PLD should have provoke as a job ability just like how they gave it phalanx.

[cidbahamut]

On another note, I also agree that PLD should have provoke as a job ability just like how they gave it phalanx.

It's called Flash.