Why more haste?

[Martinius]

I would use twilight for WS. Double attack proc on Ascetic's Fury [yes please]! I do not have Victory Smite but I believe it works the same way with double attack proc on it raising damage to even higher levels~

edit: i r teh dumb. you'll get more consistent results with black belt or an elemental belt, but twilight gives potential for spikes.

[Alei_Bahamut]

I don't think STR+7 is going to be a game breaker in Abyssea for consistantly high damage. By your logic you would have me switch to lolSTR and lolVIT rings instead of epona's ring. Or perhaps cuchulan w/e instead of Atheling mantle.

[Rambus]

edit: i r teh dumb. you'll get more consistent results with black belt or an elemental belt, but twilight gives potential for spikes.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Light_Belt
you mean those not the obis right? when i hear "elemental belt" my mind goes to black mage, maybe cuz i am mage main.

but obis can help ya do more sc damage >XD

i love light belt and light torque, works with sooo meny ws.

umm, they stack right?

[Martinius]

yeah, i was actually coming back to the site to change my post lol, as i thought of epona's ring and realized it was a comparable item, and in this, i was stupid

[Neisan_Quetz]

Twilight belt is potentially worse for Fury than warwolf/elebelts, even inside Abyssea. Assumed RR/GH/Apoc atmas, useless for Asuran, loses easily for Smite last I checked. Epona's is not a comparable item, it has TA+3 as well.

[Martinius]

twilight belt will always be worse, except for when DA procs, but his point was valid that it has the potential to spike damage.

as for asurans, really, the only time you should be using asuran fists in abyssea is when trying to proc blue !!. and yeah, outside of abyssea, twilight belt is useless on AF, since asuran can't double attack or crit. you should just be using str/att and acc.

[Greatguardian]

If you want Spike damage, you're looking at Triple Attack procs with a STR belt anyways. For Victory Smite, Black Belt easily destroys other options (aside from Bier+1). A Warwolf belt augmented with Attack+ should still beat Twilight for Ascetic's Fury.

[Cream_Soda]

Or perhaps cuchulan w/e instead of Atheling mantle.

Ok, so let me get this straight.

You're taking 2% DA and nothing else vs 7 str

and comparing it to

4 str vs 3% DA and 20 attack?


just want to make sure I'm getting your point clearly.

[Cream_Soda]

You also have to remember, DA procs are worth less for WS than they are for TP'ing.

Not only is the DA proc gives less damage (since auto 1.0 ftp), it also gives less tp.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Clearly his accuracy is far below 50% with capped attack.