spharai vs verethgna..

[Cream_Soda]

In abyssea
Vereth >>>>Rev Fists+2 >> Spharai

Outside

Vereth >> Spharai >> Rev+2

[Drhatchet]

Verethragna kicks the crap out of Spharai.

Victory Smite is a crazy, high damage weaponskill. After your first Smite, you get the same double damage on normal hits that Spharai get.
Bonus! Verethragna is faster to get *IF* you have a small group of people willing to help you.

With the upcoming changes to dynamis it might be easier to get Spharai (it all depends on the drop rate tweaks ect.), but Verethragna would still beat them down.

[Superchicken]

from a dmg aspect Verethanga

Now if you asked me which i would take i would rather have Relic for my monk. Go watch a mnk with Relics tank stuff vs a mnk with Verethanga you'll see what i'm talking about. All in all if i could only have one it would be relics for sure. If you want VS i'd suggest maybe the WoE version if you just want VS for the times you want to bring the noise, but if you notice with mnk you are tanking alot of the time whether you want to be or not, so relics are better imo for a mnk. Verethanga are for the epeen people who want to go "OH MAN you see how much dmg that victory smite did" but remember this, VS is a crit hit WS and really gains its benefits inside abyssea from the use of GH, RR atma use. Outside abyssea good luck with getting consistant big numbers due to the lower chance of criting on your WS, and if SE's next plans for endgame action strays from abyssea gonna see alot of =( from people who's empyrean WS's rely on critical hit help from abyssea atma.

It's like masamune's suffering now is the complete opposite. Its one of the weaker empyrean ws in abyssea because it is not a crit hit ws like VS, JR, Hi, etc, but take that masamune outside abyssea and put it up against those crit hit ws's and at 100% tp watch masamune prevail over the verethanga's, the almace's, etc.

Dont forget that for empyreans the occassional deals double dmg is only during aftermath when relics have hidden effects of 2-3 times dmg always active.

So basically if you want a weapon for high powered WS's in abyssea so you can emo to your friends about your big number VS dmg then verethanga, but if you want truly the best weapon for a mnk its Relic hands down

[Taint]

In abyssea
Vereth >>>>Rev Fists+2 >> Spharai

Outside

Vereth >> Spharai >> Rev+2

^ This from a damage perspective. VereMNK is just ridic with the damage. Relic adds a ton of Utility though, esp when you take away Atma. Spharai is one of the few Relics that still brings a lot to the table.