Reopened: How can Empyrean be better than Relics?

[Insaniac]

This just in: 90 Bravura is actually better then 90 Ukon on overly difficult mobs. It does more damage and gives -20% damage taken.

If this isn't sarcasm I would like to see that math lol.

[Malamasala]

I feel that SE are a bit out of touch with the special weapons. They are too afraid of making another Nirvana, since it would make Nirvana bad, but weapons with higher DMG is something they have no problems adding, since "it is just damage".

I'd like to see much more "not just DMG" weapons. And not only on the most difficult to obtain weapons.

[Ravenmore]

Love how alianmonkey keeps opening and closing his threads. done even post in any of thier threads

As for alex, if as many people were working on mystics I would think they could find each other to do the salvage, i'm sure korpg would love to know who and if they weren't brain dead.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I've never heard anything good about Metatron's Torment other than the only use for it is the -DT effect. I know one person on server who has one so I can try asking him what the damage is like.

EDIT: Managed to ask him, his response was basically better than RR outside obviously worse than RR inside. Didn't compare it to Ukko's.

[Korpg]

As for alex, if as many people were working on mystics I would think they could find each other to do the salvage, i'm sure korpg would love to know who and if they weren't brain dead.

ToAU is about as dead as Elvis Presley.

Sometimes you might see a salvage shout, but when you go to investigate it further, its all just a shadow.

[Raksha]

When you look at Mythics as a whole you'll notice that to an extent it's a big mess of what were they going for, some weapons have trait augment, others have 2hr augments with stats and then others are abilities and stat augments, or just ability augments lol.

NIN, WAR, SCH Mythics:
NIN=MACC, Enmity +, 2hr augment
WAR=Berserk Augment
SCH=Weather: ACC, MACC, Enmity -, MAB

Considering the above it seems pretty imbalanced. I would say that judging from the three SCH has a decent augment for itself it's only downside is needing weather active to make use of it. If I were to revitalize Mythic I would allow the user to create their personal augments on it, like the add-on rewards.
Let's say your base point value is 20 and with each magian upgrade it goes up 10 so by 90 you would have 50 points to work with.

SCH mythic isn't all that great. The MACC and MAB are useless when compared to ToTM staves, and I've got a lot of -enmity on just about everything anyway. If the -enmity broke the -50% cap it would be great, but even still Enmity is only a problem on nukes and cures, 2 situations where you wouldn't want the mythic equipped anyway.

[Ravenmore]

1 of playerX shadow absorbs the Tell. There is no cake.

[Korpg]

1 of playerX shadow absorbs the Tell. There is no cake.

Lies! I see the cake behind you!

[wish12oz]

Metatron with 90 bravura does a bit more then ukkos when it doesn't get crits, and I'm speaking of occasions when acc is not capped, and you don't get crits. At this point, Bravura is way better for damage. (the only thing that falls into this catagory right now is higher tier voidwatch mobs)

[Korpg]

Metatron with 90 bravura does a bit more then ukkos when it doesn't get crits, and I'm speaking of occasions when acc is not capped, and you don't get crits. At this point, Bravura is way better for damage. (the only thing that falls into this catagory right now is higher tier voidwatch mobs)

So, is it worth making a Bravura now then?