PUP demoted to 20th place.. by COR?

[MarkovChain]

I'm not a "bandwagon lol'er" I actually had pup at 75 with perfect gear. Noone cares honestly what you do on NMs they are all brewed by stacks of 12 ... And even in case you tank them it's always better to put a monk due to a better damage/TP given ratio and a better killing speed (like anyone cares about min maxing anyway ?). The reason people don't play pup is that you can't do anything serious on it. I'm tired of the "bandwagon PUP defenders" personally, because you guys are making it sound like pup doesn't give serious job adjustments. It took time for SE to do some obvious ones (like a non retarded H2H skill, lower than dagger). As of now I still don't see why PUP isn't A+ on H2H because it should be a DD. After all the lower delay on martial arts is enough of a penalty (and why should there be one in the first place ? MNKs have impetus and counterstance). Obviously the mages pets require higher magic accuracy and the melee pets a serious ws paired with an ability to copy the master's haste buffs (the other buffs don't mater).

[Alhanelem]

I'm not a "bandwagon lol'er" I actually had pup at 75 with perfect gear. Noone cares honestly what you do on NMs they are all brewed by stacks of 12

Maybe you have 9238457632432 cruor and brew everything but not everyone else does. And whether or not it's better to do this or that, sometimes people don't have this or that job. For me, PUP is more fun to play, and I care about the enjoyment factor while playing something we call a "game." That said, you keep talking about PUP tanking. PUP doesn't tank. it's like every other non-MNK DD, they don't want to have hate if they have any choice in the matter. And any time you have a MNK or some other tank already there, PUP doesn't really have a problem. You can go MNK and be awesome all you want. Those of us who would rather play PUP can still use the job and accomplish whatever we set out to do.

As of now I still don't see why PUP isn't A+ on H2H because it should be a DD.

If PUP HTH was A+ it would probably be borderline too strong. Impetus, I agree, challenges that notion now, frankly I see the ability getting nerfed though.

We aren't "bandwagon PUP defenders." I've never even heard such a thing. We, or at least I, are people who are serious about the job and who know what it's capable of. We defend it because it's worthy of our defense, not just for the sake of having something to defend.

Magic auto's MAB potential is just fine, and I've never had a problem landing spells. Both sharpshot and valoredge now have good weapon skills they can use whenever Tactical Switch is down.

[Leonlionheart]

@Pchan: lolmnk

WAR shits all over MNK in Abyssea, and likewise everything else.

"MNK+WHM can duo anything"

WAR+WHM can duo whatever a MNK can, and in less time. It's Abyssea for Christ's sake.

[MarkovChain]

Using that logic bst can solo anything so the job is superior to anything. I am tired of the friendless bandwagon bg trolls. If a melee job is superior to any other in abyssea it is NOT mnk nor war it is ninja.

Also, nope war doesn't beat monk and it never did. Also abyssea belongs to the past now get over it already. If you still have stuff to do over there I think your war might not be as great as you pretend it to be.

[Leonlionheart]

Using that logic bst can solo anything so the job is superior to anything. I am tired of the friendless bandwagon bg trolls. If a melee job is superior to any other in abyssea it is NOT mnk nor war it is ninja.

Also, nope war doesn't beat monk and it never did. Also abyssea belongs to the past now get over it already. If you still have stuff to do over there I think your war might not be as great as you pretend it to be.

Nope, WAR beats it everywhere in terms of damage.

Edit: By large amounts.

Edit 2: And Ninja? WAR ruins them.

[MarkovChain]

Troll less

[Leonlionheart]

Troll less

Next time I'll let you know that if you don't have a brd then DRK is better than MNK too

[Alhanelem]

You're the one trolling if you're really posing the idea that NIN is the top end of the top tier.

[MarkovChain]

Congrats on beating CoP "before the caps were taken off" like 95% of the playerbase and achieving 4 level 75 before abyssea !

[Leonlionheart]

Congrats on beating CoP "before the caps were taken off" like 95% of the playerbase and achieving 4 level 75 before abyssea !

Thank you!