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    Player Aurara's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Eh, I've never been a fan of this argument. People said the exact same thing about the Salvage bans when duping was outed =/.

    That said, Windower is 99% harmless (and maintained specifically to stay that way) and adds so much to the game that I highly doubt they care enough to really go after people for using it.
    The thing is that salvage dupes were actually game breaking(if you get what i mean?) with windower it's harmless like you said.
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    I think the game would die pretty fast if they started banning people for standard windower. I doubt its not an exaggeration to say at least 30% of the NA population uses it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel View Post
    I think the game would die pretty fast if they started banning people for standard windower. I doubt its not an exaggeration to say at least 30% of the NA population uses it.
    Actually, I think the number would be closer to 90% of the PC users use windower, so about 90% of the American PC users would be closer to that figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    I dont use a keyboard but if I did I can type 120 words a min.

    PS I also use a 42" TV to run my xbox
    So you're still having to hit 3-4 macros per spell then. Is hitting A 4 times every time you want to do something a challenge for you? Or is it simply annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Actually, I think the number would be closer to 90% of the PC users use windower, so about 90% of the American PC users would be closer to that figure.
    I think this is overinflated. I'd believe that 90% of the players that go to forums (including this one) and are likely to reply to a "Do you use Windower" poll "Yes," but Windower makes it easier much to find and respond to such a poll.

    I think I list the most reputable NA/JP windower study here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post61492
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    I may be wrong about the se widower, but I think the biggest advantage to the unofficial one is the ability to run two instances of ffxi on the same machine. If people needed two comps to two box that would suck.
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    Player Darkshade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    Actually... for me ... using the in game Windowed mode is faster then the third party Windower. And a lot of people who use the third party Windower app just leave it set to the default settings and run it in a Window sized at 800x600.

    There are some negative things about Windower... for example it's setup to load some plugins automatically at start up. Unfortunately... they may cause the game to crash. This was a problem when Windower was being distributed with an out of date plugin which crashed the game every time. I assume the problem has been addressed.

    Also the original person behind Windower left a LONG time ago. As did the people he left it to originally. There will come a time when development no one wants to bother (unless they open the source code to everyone and they seem very reluctant to do this).
    Yeah, but development has been passed on to many other iterations of programmers. I don't see it dieing anytime soon, the only thing that could really kill it is if SE decided to finally upgrade the Direct X used and changed some serious ways in which data is stored in memory. Even then, it would be fixable given the current team cared enough.
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  9. #38
    Player Darkshade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alienmonkey View Post
    You enjoy playing your keyboard like a piano when you play ffxi?

    And wtf @ "most people who use windower play at 800x600"
    Most people I know that use windower play at 1680x1050 or 1920x1080/1200. Would be nice if someday SE could scale the GUI better for these higher resolutions or at least cut the chat box in half.
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  10. #39
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    most people I know use windower to allow them to play at the resolution of their monitor or TV if they have one hooked up, the resolutions in the settings are rather lacking
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    Try to have fun or it isn't worth playing

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    A lot of people use windower, nobody wants to admit it because that is almost the same as going to the police and telling them that you are an avid speeder.
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