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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    ITT: Being able to swap more than 6 pieces of gear at a time is cheating.

    Is it, by definition? Yes. Does it hurt anyone? No. Absolutely not. Never will. Is it worth complaining about? Not really.
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    Player Kraggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    ITT: Being able to swap more than 6 pieces of gear at a time is cheating.

    Is it, by definition? Yes. Does it hurt anyone? No. Absolutely not. Never will. Is it worth complaining about? Not really.
    You know as well as I do the macro system in Windower is used to do a hell of lot more that is impossible with the game as SE provide it than simple gear swaps!
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    Last edited by Kraggy; 06-29-2011 at 05:06 PM.

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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    You know as well as I do the macro system in Windower is used to do a hell of lot more that is impossible with the game as SE provide it than simple gear swaps!
    Like what? Skillup scripts? Enhancing skillups that don't require a Besieged? Oh no. What ever shall we do.
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    Player Alkalinehoe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Like what? Skillup scripts? Enhancing skillups that don't require a Besieged? Oh no. What ever shall we do.
    These are crazy times we're living in man.
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Would be nice if they condoned certain things like in wow but i doubt they ever will. Honestly I think they can detect it (when you look at all the stuff they can track with the census) but they have no reason to take action on it.

    It's not hard to track windower if they really wanted to, timestamp alone is a huge flag waving you are using it but they have no reason to ban large numbers of players for what is really a pointless reason.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    It's not hard to track windower if they really wanted to, timestamp alone is a huge flag waving you are using it but they have no reason to ban large numbers of players for what is really a pointless reason.
    How would they know it shows timestamps on your PC? That information isn't sent back to their servers, so they have no idea. It's not even anywhere in the memory, or in the temporary log file, it's just put on the user's screen before it's shown. So unless you make screenshots of your timestamps and e-mail them to SE HQ, and convince them they're not photoshopped, they won't know you're using timestamps. Same goes for almost all Windower plugins.
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    I think they should condone certain plugins like recast and status timer, these are nice to have and are included in 14, so the only reason they wouldnt is because of the PS2 and 360 players. They could however get in touch with the people that still work on windower and see which plugins people use, then they could check if the popular plugins would break the game and if not implement them in the client.

    Take Distance, Recast and StatusTimer, these are very light weight and could easily be implemented in the official client and wouldnt be too bad on the ps2 resources
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    Player Neika's Avatar
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    I use SE windower on my laptop, and I don't find it makes me lag out any worse than I do on my desktop (I play full screen on my desktop). I've never used the unofficial windower, but I have heard of some of the plug-ins, and I would love SE to implement some of them to the game. It'll never happen of course, but it's nice to dream
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    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    I don't think they would ban people just for using windower, there are too many people out there who uses windower to ban.

    Banning everyone who uses windower is like committing economical suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I don't think they would ban people just for using windower, there are too many people out there who uses windower to ban.

    Banning everyone who uses windower is like committing economical suicide.
    This, the sheer number of people both NA and JP who use it would destroy their income from the game.
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