Banned for Windower?

[Crosser]

Recently I have been wondering if SE still disapproves of PC players that play the game with Windower. I don't mean the stupid windowed mode that SE gave us a few years ago. I mean the actual Windower with the plugins that makes the game so much more enjoyable. I was wondering also that if they don't have a problem with PC players that use Windower, then does that also imply that they do not mind PC users using Windower macros. For those who don't know what Windower macros offer over in game macros differs in that:

1. The games macros that are limited to six lines per macro key. Windower macros allow for infinite macro lines per macro key.

2. Windower macros are very easy to edit. The in game macros only offer a very select few choices of commands you can use for copying macros. You usually still have to type out most of your macros yourself. However, if someone posts a macro setup that you think would work for you, then all you have to do is do a copy/paste to the Windower macros. You can also show friends your macro setups as well and ask for ideas on how to improve them.

If SE doesn't mind that the majority of PC players use Windower or Windower Macros, then does that also mean that if someone needed to save their macro sets (macros that were made for operating Windower Macros) to the POL server would they need to worry that SE would ban them for saving macros that used a 3rd party software with the game.

[Bumbeen]

I asked a LGM about this years ago at a kirin and he just ignored me.

Of course if they really cared it would be trivially easy to identify and ban people who use windower scripts or spellcast.

[Alhanelem]

Any third party tool is bannable; It's only a matter of whether they can detect you using it or not. The only real way for them to detect tools is if they send data to the server or ask for data from the server in unusual ways.

From what little I ever hear about it, they only ban people in extreme cases; they can't afford to kill off customers when its not absolutely necessary.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

FFXI now has a built in windower, so you can still window and not get banned for 3rd party tools.

[Alkalinehoe]

FFXI now has a built in windower, so you can still window and not get banned for 3rd party tools.

lol at not reading OP.

[Darkshade]

Would likely quit if Windower wasn't available. Sadly I feel the game is not worth playing without it's utility and convenience.

[Alhanelem]

SE could learn a thing or two from them if they really wanted to.

[Darkshade]

SE could learn a thing or two from them if they really wanted to.

I think many of the problems stem from the code being so old and them having to cater to PS2 users. I don't have a problem with it, XI's UI is just very limited and crummy. It works and I'm glad it's lag free unlike XIV but, it leaves something to be desired in several ways.

[Greatguardian]

Technically there's nothing stopping them from updating the Windows UI and leaving the PS2 UI where it is. They just choose not to.

Even if they did, though, they wouldn't be implementing anything as cool as Spellcast (most likely), so people would still use Windower anyways. I highly, highly doubt they care though. Just don't run around shouting about it next to someone who hates you and wants to GM you for anything and everything. For what it's worth, I've never seen someone banned for it.

[Kraggy]

Would likely quit if Windower wasn't available. Sadly I feel the game is not worth playing without it's utility and convenience.

So, apart from the cheating features (massive macro capability, etc) what aspects of the game does Windower make worthwhile?