Banned for Windower?

[Laraul]

I think people approve of it over SE's version because it's true fullscreen. Not to mention it doesn't make the game run like crap. I don't know what it is that the windower team did that owned paid professionals so badly, but they did it. SE took us too literally when we asked for a windowed mode. We wanted full screen and alt tab. Not boxed screen and lag.

Actually... for me ... using the in game Windowed mode is faster then the third party Windower. And a lot of people who use the third party Windower app just leave it set to the default settings and run it in a Window sized at 800x600.

There are some negative things about Windower... for example it's setup to load some plugins automatically at start up. Unfortunately... they may cause the game to crash. This was a problem when Windower was being distributed with an out of date plugin which crashed the game every time. I assume the problem has been addressed.

Also the original person behind Windower left a LONG time ago. As did the people he left it to originally. There will come a time when development no one wants to bother (unless they open the source code to everyone and they seem very reluctant to do this).

[Darkshade]

Actually... for me ... using the in game Windowed mode is faster then the third party Windower. And a lot of people who use the third party Windower app just leave it set to the default settings and run it in a Window sized at 800x600.

There are some negative things about Windower... for example it's setup to load some plugins automatically at start up. Unfortunately... they may cause the game to crash. This was a problem when Windower was being distributed with an out of date plugin which crashed the game every time. I assume the problem has been addressed.

Also the original person behind Windower left a LONG time ago. As did the people he left it to originally. There will come a time when development no one wants to bother (unless they open the source code to everyone and they seem very reluctant to do this).

Yeah, but development has been passed on to many other iterations of programmers. I don't see it dieing anytime soon, the only thing that could really kill it is if SE decided to finally upgrade the Direct X used and changed some serious ways in which data is stored in memory. Even then, it would be fixable given the current team cared enough.

[Elexia]

Would likely quit if Windower wasn't available. Sadly I feel the game is not worth playing without it's utility and convenience.

Yeah, it is hard to play a game without a ton of plugins.

[Leonlionheart]

Would likely quit if Windower wasn't available. Sadly I feel the game is not worth playing without it's utility and convenience.

First page I know, but quoted for truth.

I've played for 7 years without it, and I now realize what a mistake that has been.

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[Alhanelem]

SE could learn a thing or two from them if they really wanted to.

[Darkshade]

SE could learn a thing or two from them if they really wanted to.

I think many of the problems stem from the code being so old and them having to cater to PS2 users. I don't have a problem with it, XI's UI is just very limited and crummy. It works and I'm glad it's lag free unlike XIV but, it leaves something to be desired in several ways.

[Hyshio]

SE could learn a thing or two from them if they really wanted to.

I agree with this and as a staff member for windower, I hope one day we can communicate such ideas and possibilities with the dev team. If it wasnt for windower itself, this game wouldnt have made it to what it is now and they know it.

[Leonlionheart]

If it wasnt for windower itself, this game wouldnt have made it to what it is now and they know it.

Just want to put emphasis on this statement.

Base FFXI (no windower) is played by probably at maximum 15% of the playerbase (on PC). If everyone who used Windower were suddenly gone, I'd think the game would be reduced to about 1.5 servers worth of people.

[Greatguardian]

Technically there's nothing stopping them from updating the Windows UI and leaving the PS2 UI where it is. They just choose not to.

Even if they did, though, they wouldn't be implementing anything as cool as Spellcast (most likely), so people would still use Windower anyways. I highly, highly doubt they care though. Just don't run around shouting about it next to someone who hates you and wants to GM you for anything and everything. For what it's worth, I've never seen someone banned for it.