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    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    We get it, you made your own thread, Korpg. I'll even give you a pat on the back for it. :P

    Teasing aside, I agree with this thread. Closing threads is just the coward's way out 98.4% of the time. The other 1.6% is some random statistic I made up off the top of my head. Anywho. People only close their threads to duck out of an argument or if they feel that nothing's getting done. In the latter case, just leave it be, and the thread will die out on its own. Most threads aren't even closed; they just lose popularity, fall off the front page, and are forgotten. There is no need to make a close thread option available to the users, other than to create a method for people to run off when they get opposition.

    So yeah, down with the close thread option! /picketing
    Bolded: Fixed for you.

    Actually, I'm just pointing out the reasons why closing one's thread is a pointless move. If you are going to close it to save face, I'll just reopen it to throw mud in your face again. (or something like that)
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    Whoopsies, my bad on the spelling. That's what I get for typing while dealing with three IMs at once.

    But yeah, I agree with you. If someone's going to just close a thread because they don't like the argument, it's easy for anyone to resume the conversation in their own thread. Just more reasons for us to not need the close thread button, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    But yeah, I agree with you. If someone's going to just close a thread because they don't like the argument, it's easy for anyone to resume the conversation in their own thread. Just more reasons for us to not need the close thread button, I suppose.
    That I will agree with you on. Is the close thread button really needed? Not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    If someone's going to just close a thread because they don't like the argument, it's easy for anyone to resume the conversation in their own thread. Just more reasons for us to not need the close thread button, I suppose.
    Yes, this aswell. Having to start a new thread because the first one was closed in the middle of the discussion, also clutters up the forum unnecessarily. A minor thing, yes - but still.
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    Am I a culprit in closing a thread to "save face?" Maybe so, but I have my reasons for closing my threads. It's my thread, I can do what I want with it. SE says so, you have no power over that. Slander as much as you like!

    I close my threads when one or more of the following has occurred:
    (1) If the thread was asking for an answer from a Rep, and the Rep responded on the issue.
    (2) If the thread has derailed into nothing more than senseless bickering for the sake of epeen.

    I know my arguments to my cases. When the opposition fails to acknowledge my side of the argument and address each point accordingly, they are neglecting one of the more important topics concerning etiquette of debate. When the opposition not only places their opinion but slanders me all the while, what do you expect me to do?

    I do try to remain civil on these forums. I recognize that these are the official forums of FFXI and that everything regarding the ToS in FFXI is the same here. But it is my nature as a human (as you should admit, too) to get riled up when others are belittling me and my cause without giving either any proper recognition.

    It's all opinions. I can deal with your opinion if you can deal with mine. If not, then what really entitles me to be respectful towards someone who just insults me, time and again? What really entitles them to continue to post and voice their opinion (all the while displaying their contempt for me) in further depth when:

    - I already know their position.
    - The topic has received no attention from a Rep or
    - The topic has received an answer from a Rep.

    I see no use in it. I can honestly say that yes, pixels do get me riled up. That's why I occasionally prevent them and myself from ever having to go further than necessary. When another person copies the idea of my topic and makes a new one - fine. When they continue to slander me - fine. I won't be a part of the discussion. I've gotten what I wanted from my own topic and that's enough for me.

    I don't care if trolls abuse it. I don't care if you don't agree with me. I do what I want with my own topics and that's my business (and SE's, too, if they care enough), not yours.
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    If people are insulting you, use the report function (I think it's the 3rd time I point this out). However, some forum posters need to grow a thicker skin. Just because someone says "I think your idea is dumb", it doesn't really mean they are insulting you. However, if they go "You're dumb, your opinions are worthless, you suck @ FFXI, you're also fat, live in your mom's basement, have no job, no girlfriend/boyfriend, no life, go kill yourself" and any version/combination of statements like that, that's a different story.

    And what you see as bickering, others may see as fun/interesting debate.

    I really do not think the option to moderate any thread, even their own, should be left to the forum members.
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    I don't think that closing your own thread is a terrible thing, but there should be limits. There was a guy today posting a ton of threads and closing it right away. It's a DISCUSSION board for a reason. To DISCUSS.

    I think threads that consist of only the original post, instead of being locked by a user, should just be outright deleted. And past that, maybe a daily limit on locking threads. Like 5? I like 5.
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    I don't think that closing your own thread is a terrible thing, but there should be limits. There was a guy today posting a ton of threads and closing it right away. It's a DISCUSSION board for a reason. To DISCUSS.
    He was doing it on purpose to try get them to remove the thread close option i guess, seems he might of got banned for it. Can hope anyway, doing stupid stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    He was doing it on purpose to try get them to remove the thread close option i guess, seems he might of got banned for it. Can hope anyway, doing stupid stuff like that.
    Whatever it was for, I (And many others, as I could tell.) were annoyed by it. Would be best to just have the board delete the post for a post with no replies.
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    Just to point out to the Community reps why the option to close your own thread is a bad idea.

    one person is now going back and closing all of this threads, and creating new ones, getting 1 response, then closing them. Probably Because he's so awesome and trying to prove the point of this thread through the only means available, abusing the system to show them why its a bad idea.

    If that isn't the finest example of bad-assery i don't know what is.

    This clearly needs to be addressed, or at least have limitations. I.E if you close a thread you cannot re-open it ever. Or if you Close a thread you cannot create one for 24 hours. I think the option should be removed entirely.

    If you can't handle what comes with making a thread (Bro-tip: Negative Comments, Positive Comments, Both!), Do not make a thread. Poster in no other forum reserve a "right" to close a thread, You don't deserve it here. It should be a mod only power.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 06-29-2011 at 01:32 PM.

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