Please remove the option to close own threads.

[Cream_Soda]

There is absolutely nothing more than can come from this topic other than "YOU'RE WRONG I'M RIGHT RAWRRR."

All possible, logical solutions to the problem have been presented. Nothing more for the Devs to read other than e-peen growth.

Please lock this topic. PLEASE.

Why do you care so much? I see you in nearly every topic begging for it to be locked.

[Darkwizardzin]

.........Personaly I do not think the OP should have the right to close there own threads.

As people have already proven all these posters have closed threads just because they don't like where they have gone... and all that it does is move the thread to somewhere else. (the thread doesn't die... just annoys people alittle and makes them move somewhere else)

When a discussion has been started it is up for the moderators to deside if it needs to be stoped. If the OP doesn't like where is goes they can just leave it and start over. There isn't a limit to how many threads you can make (to my knowledge) so that's no problem. Like many have said already.... there is little benafit to keeping this option but it causes alot of problems.

As for the people who think this thread should be closed... chill out you already stated your point no need to spam it. let the moderators do there jobs. (for the record I think this thread should stay open because more opinions/ideas can be born from it for the admins to use when desiding what to do with this feature)

[katz]

Do you not think an operator choosing to close their thread is allowing them to chill down a topic that has become over heated and twisted from their original intentions.?
When some members deliberately take your context and twist it to mean the total opposite of your opinion and try to convince everyone it was your opinion, how should this be dealt with?
How do you deal with someone who constantly changes your topics on every topic you post?
How do you deal with unintentional TOS rule breaking if you cant edit or delete or close?
Personally I have deleted any post that I discovered may have been deemed to have broken TOS, I have asked the person who was changing my views and convincing other thats what I said, to stop it on more than 1 occasion. I have closed derailing threads. I have asked them not to comment on any of my posts so that they would not change my point of view and I have asked them not to refer to me in any of his comments. In the end the only way I could stop him was not to see any of his comments and let him change my point of view to others so now people believe thats what I said. He is now on my ignore list and the solution seemed to be let him make up lies about me, which to be honest is not a very satisfactory solution. How would you have dealt with someone who blatently twisted your threads to make you a liar to others. Wait for a Mod to remove them, so that everyone could see the lies he was telling? I think no one likes to be called a liar over and over again. This was why the first thread was closed by myself. How else do you think this could be managed better in the future whats the solution?

[Pharaun]

Korpg wasn't calling you a liar, he taking the statements you posted and logically applying them, you didn't like someone calling you out on your nonsense so you closed the thread. You've been backpedaling so fast about that thread that I'm surprised you haven't broken the sound barrier yet.

[katz]

When someone keeps telling you ,you believe in something that you dont believe in, and then saying its what you said despite you trying to clarify on more than one occassion your point of view and then they still insist its your point of view, its being called a liar. If it was a mistake of understanding then he could have said apologies I mistook what you meant but he continued to change what I had said saying it was what I believed in. I never back tracked on my own personal view I never made it personal, quoting on quotes to make them sound like he believed i was saying something else. When I said not to comment on posts that he didnt understand and that we both spoke a different language he continued . So what was the solution

[Ravenmore]

Deleteing your post so people can't go and see if you are telling the truth or not makes only you look bad even if your telling the truth to why you deleted it, same if true for edits that come long after the time the post was first posted.

[Korpg]

Do you not think an operator choosing to close their thread is allowing them to chill down a topic that has become over heated and twisted from their original intentions.?

If you meant to first thread you closed because you didn't like the outcome, so you closed it, then that isn't twisting it from it's original intention.

You had a bad idea, people told you that it was a bad idea, you closed the thread claiming that they are all against you. Later, you deleted your thread when the evidence started to come against you. That is not twisting your words, because that is what you did.

When some members deliberately take your context and twist it to mean the total opposite of your opinion and try to convince everyone it was your opinion, how should this be dealt with?

You had an idea that wasn't understood that well, so people (more than one) have told you what they got out of it. Yet, everyone agreed that the translated version was as close to the original as anyone could understand. You even understood the conversion and picked on one thing that you claimed you didn't say, but even the original version had what you said.

Its like this. I say the object in front of you is a stallion, you claim it is a horse. They are both the same thing! I am right, you are right, but you are getting offended because I called that object in front of you a stallion and say I'm twisting your words and I'm "slandering" you.

How do you deal with someone who constantly changes your topics on every topic you post?

You continue to say that! Nobody is "constantly changing" anything you say! We don't need to (until you delete your posts again) because it is exactly the same thing you said!

How do you deal with unintentional TOS rule breaking if you cant edit or delete or close?

Not saying it? Post reading yourself? Actually looking at your post and seeing if you mean what you say? You could try that instead of bashing the keyboard and hope words come out.

Personally I have deleted any post that I discovered may have been deemed to have broken TOS, I have asked the person who was changing my views and convincing other thats what I said, to stop it on more than 1 occasion.

You deleted your first 63 posts! ALL OF THEM! Did you really break the ToS 63 times...in a row? No!

Also, you asked me to stop quoting you. But you said it as such: Stop talking to me, and I'll stop talking to you. I did, but within minutes you went back to quote me and reply. When I called you out on that, you said that I, and I alone, was supposed to stop talking to you. That it is ok for you to talk to me because you deemed it to be "fair."

I have closed derailing threads.

That thread was on topic the entire time. You didn't like the answers, so you closed (and deleted) it.
[quote]I have asked them not to comment on any of my posts so that they would not change my point of view and I have asked them not to refer to me in any of his comments.[quote]
Half-true. You said for me to stop talking to you and for you to do the same. Which you didn't.

In the end the only way I could stop him was not to see any of his comments and let him change my point of view to others so now people believe thats what I said.

If I really was changing your point of view, would that really work? No. Instead, you are ignoring the main problem, which is you!

He is now on my ignore list and the solution seemed to be let him make up lies about me, which to be honest is not a very satisfactory solution.

How can anything I say be lies if there is proof backing me up, but most anything you said was deleted...by you...so you can save face and think that you never said any of the things you said?

How would you have dealt with someone who blatently twisted your threads to make you a liar to others.

A) If I really was twisting words around, wouldn't I be doing it to more than one person? Seems to me that the only person who is claiming that I have twisted anything is you.
B) Only person twisting any words is you, doing it to yourself, saying that you said one thing then later on saying that you never said that, you said something else (which is backpetaling, I wasn't the one who called you out on that either).

Wait for a Mod to remove them, so that everyone could see the lies he was telling? I think no one likes to be called a liar over and over again. This was why the first thread was closed by myself. How else do you think this could be managed better in the future whats the solution?

Wait, you want a mod to remove you? You are the only person here who is contradicting themselves (besides Dallas, but he has seemed to disappear).

Oh, and somebody quote me. In full. Please

[Darkwizardzin]

...Korpg why should someone quote you just so you can by pass the fact he is ignoring you? I think you and katz should stop talking to and about each other from this point onward. Only thing continuing this would do is create unneeded drama to the threads... and I for one would not welcome that.

before you say it korpg or katz... im not saying you both on your own create drama... but when it comes to each other... you do.. so just stop.

[Darkwizardzin]

meh, fine.

Good... now maybe this thread can get back on topic.

[Raksha]

So how long should a thread go un-replied-in before the OP gets the option to delete it? 1 day? 1 week?