Thief update ~ job ability "Mug" to share "aural steal"(?)

[Covenant]

Basic fix to allow the 15min thief ability "Mug" to share in the aural steal merit ability. This way a thief would have 2 dispel and absorb option, while the timer of mug would still limit it's use.

[Zyla420]

no thanks, what they need to do is just fix stealing abilities in general.

steal > 1min recast, job trait to steal temp items if normal item isn't stolen
aurasteal > 1 min recast, separated from steal, not tied to steal's recast
mug > 5 min recast, can't mug same mob more than once, steals cruror in aby
despoil > 30 sec recast with specific despoils for inflicting specific status ailments, each recast tied to the other despoil abilities, 50% chance to land with gear to increase this chance and duration

this would go miles for fixing what i feel is wrong with thf, our utility being useless.

[Covenant]

@zyla240. rMT's would love your suggestions. I'm trying to keep the basic mechanic and add to a rural steal. 15 minutes is a long time though.

[Zyla420]

how would rmt's love this suggestion? you did read the part where i said you couldn't mug the same NM twice didn't you?

other than mugging an NM it's a pointless ability that will net you maybe 10 gil off normal mobs. and as it stands most of the time mug would be up again by the time the next NM would be popped be it in or out of abyssea.

if you're getting at the aspect of cruror stolen being too much, i'd simply like to ask how so? with boxes dropping 1k each fairly common this seems like a moot point to try to make.

[Alaik]

Doesn't matter if you could use mug every 5 seconds on NMs, they run out of gil. Easily tested in Den of Rancor, mug a NM, hide from it, keep doing it. Eventually (After 2-3 mugs) the NM stops giving gil upon being mugged, it just says has no effect.

[Covenant]

I'm still also accounting for the aural/dispel effects. Not necessarily Gil argument. But a level 90 their could train any gold coin group and steal off them repeatedly, not necessarily from the same mob.

[Zyla420]

those coins are worth maybe 50k a stack now depending on server, and steal isn't 100% rate. if SE were worried about this dark rings wouldn't be npc'ing for 33k each.

[RygaenYuui]

Signature move for THF has been broken for years; SE put a stop to being able to steal multiple items from one mob. Not really expecting SE to consider tweaking or fixing this concept either.

Steal, Mug, and Despoil are all highly unreliable skills. Steal+ gear hardly helps the efficacy of the ability. Steal, Mug, and Despoil are all highly unreliable skills. Aura Steal is actually the only thing worth using steal for every 5 minutes. I doubt many other people ever bother using steal for any other purpose but dispelling.

The other horribly annoying thing about the situation is that when you really WANT to Aura steal dispel, steal actually works successfully and takes precedence over dispelling.

It's a pretty big dilemma. Kinda like the pink elephant in the corner of the room that everyone is currently ignoring. We can do our job but it'd be nice to have some kind of tweak to these matters.

[Seshomaru0214]

Ya imma have to go with rygaen on this one thats really the only thing i use steal for is to dispel and when i desperately need something dispelled it never fails to actually steal something leaving me out in the cold >.<