FFXI death, PS2 fault?

[Angelsasuke]

I didnt readf the whole thread so if someone already said this im sorry, but did anyone realize ps2 limitations mostly is the HDD space, instead of tryin to work players outta the game. Why not convince sony to release a way to upgrade to a bigger HDD or maybe SE to develope something that will make a normal external/internal of a bigger size usable.

[Ilax]

Exactly. Some still want an updated Vana'diel though. I can understand but it's not going to happen unless player base doubles or triples.

Funny you say that because even if FF14 is lol-free FFXI have probably 20x more player base, and the good news is SE making money out of it, can't say much about FF14.

Also note is only 8% that still play on PS2... That would cost everyone only 24$ each to make SE ship them a free computer. that a big 2$/month for a year to revive FFXI.

[Rambus]

HDD and ram...

new comp? why not ps3?

[Ilax]

HDD and ram...

new comp? why not ps3?

Because 2011 should be planed to kill PS2/PS3 (8%) (2$/month)
2012 should be planed to kill Xbox. (8%) (2$/month again)

Get out console, enough holding. 2013 should be completely free of console.

Keep i mind at the moment 84% of FFXI player already use PC... (not console)

Edit: Hmmm, almost forget to say, those 16%(console), i bet you anything 90% of them have access to a PC that is by far enough to play FFXI.

[Gratinao]

Want to have people stop using PS2 it vary easy start adding new zones for PC and Xbox 360. That is one for the reason I play on PC only now. My CD ROM drive on my PS2 died and I can't install WoTG. I can still use it to play in all Older zone. Some PS2 players might quit do to not being able to play new addons some would stay with what they have and other would say ok its time to upgrade from this 10 year old thing.

[Laotzu]

Maybe a Player Referendum, Poll or Survey into some of the topics we've seen posted would be a good idea. It would be great to see SE asking everyones opinion on the state of the game and could clear up what needs to be done to keep players happy and playing the game.

Like a poll through PlayOnline or something to ask whether the players think removal of PS2 support would be a good idea, what sort of content expansion there should be (reusing zones for better gameplay or to make newer, better looking stuff) and about game balance.

Allowing people to post on the forums is good to get ideas to put towards development but it's not a good indication of popular thought on the matters. Not everyone will take the time to make a long post on why they think this is a good idea or a bad idea but with a system to vote on topics, they could get a broader idea of people for or against, using forums to get a better idea on the changes that players want done.

[Ilax]

Why i have feeling 84% would be up for it and 8%(ps2/ps3) against it and 8% (lol-xbox) unsure about this because they see same thing coming for them (eventually).

[Laotzu]

Why i have feeling 84% would be up for it and 8%(ps2/ps3) against it and 8% (lol-xbox) unsure about this because they see same thing coming for them (eventually).

I personally think the 360's ability for upgrade potential won't be strained for a long time, if at all within FFXI's lifetime. With PS2's memory being at 32MB compared to the xbox 360's 512MB? (I'm not sure on this number, please correct me if it's wrong) and the size of official, supported HDD options being larger, SE would have to make the game hog more memory and add a ton of new content to fill up the space.

[Twille]

I don't really think dropping PS2 support is an option for SE. Would it allow them to make some improvements to FFXI, of course, but in their eyes I'm quite certain the cost is too high and the gain is too low.

The up side: Improvements to FFXI would realistically only make existing customers a little happy, for a little while, without generating many new customers.
The down side: Lost revenue of customers that don't move over to either PC or 360.

Personally, I think the long-term benefits of dropping PS2 would pay off. SE would theoretically have more options for additional content, and therefore generate income from expansions and such, but who knows. I don't know how many of you have seen the Letter from the Developer they've been doing for FFXIV, but they're putting a considerable amount of effort into re-vamping the game to make it appeal to the masses. FFXI is never going to get that type of attention, it's simply too old.

Would I like to see PS2 support dropped for the possibility of a better FFXI? I would. Do I think it will actually happen? Sadly, no.

[Ilax]

I personally think the 360's ability for upgrade potential won't be strained for a long time, if at all within FFXI's lifetime. With PS2's memory being at 32MB compared to the xbox 360's 512MB? (I'm not sure on this number, please correct me if it's wrong) and the size of official, supported HDD options being larger, SE would have to make the game hog more memory and add a ton of new content to fill up the space.

That true, at least until New hardware come out that allow more complex 3d that xbox360 can't render, but yes technically it would still be awesome to get ride of the 32meg limitation, for xbox360 i agree it gonna take a while before it cause real issue.