FFXI death, PS2 fault?

[TribalProphet]

I want to not just see more reskins of the same zones if the 250 area limit is true. You've had 8 years to get a PC or 360 and the cost of a PC that can run this game is probably somewhere in the 150$ range at this point.

The reskins count as zones. Whether or not that ~250 zone limit is still in place (I've heard it may not be anymore), each zone takes a spot in the list, whether it looks like another zone or not.

And for all the people saying for paying customers to spend $150-300 to get a pc "for cheap" that will play this game; Until you put your money where your mouth is and send those PS2 users that $150-300, you don't have a vote. It's easy to say "make others pay more" when you're not the one of the ones being told to pay.

[Karala]

Insignifigant number you mean and the rest of us are the ones being betrayed.Yes a viable solution as well, but the end result is still dropping PS2 support.

Yep, end result is the same, but certainly less aggressive and hopefully easier to swallow for PS2 players.

Also, speaking for myself, I hope dropping Xbox 360 doesn't come for a long time... I haven't updated my PC in a looooooong time, it can't even play the game as it is now. x-x

[Mirage]

Is that because it's less than 700 MHz, or because it's full of malware on a 10 year old windows ME installation? :>

Less aggressive is of course good. Every PS2 user can get a free version of FF11 PC and install it without extra cost, btw. They can log in on any FF11 installation, bought, borrowed or downloaded with their existing account.

If the PS2 users knew many months in advance that it would happen, they would have plenty of time to acquire a copy to install from, patch, and get used to the controls before the PS2 support was killed off.

[Karala]

Because it's a 10 year old low end piece of crap that barely functions as it is, on top of having almost no RAM, and a tiny hard drive. I spend all my money on games, anyways, and that's the way it'll stay.


I had no idea PS2 users could get the PC version free, but I love that they can. That's certainly in the right direction. Certainly announcing a drop months ahead would do well, but how many months are we talking? I'd prefer a year myself, accounting for any issues people might have with obtaining a PC or Xbox to play it on. There are people who game on a budget, with outdated consoles. I've been there most of my life.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Because it's a 10 year old low end piece of crap that barely functions as it is, on top of having almost no RAM, and a tiny hard drive. I spend all my money on games, anyways, and that's the way it'll stay.

Are you descibing the PS2 or an old computer? I can't tell. lol

[Mirage]

In 2001, a good PC was around 1.5 GHz, and low end PCs had probably around 1 GHz. Video cards from that age usually had 32 or 64MB RAM. Certain ATI cards had compatibility problems (such as the Radeon 8500) despite being powerful enough. Not that the game used the video card in any significant way anyway. It can run even on Intel "Extreme" Graphics that has the 3D capabilities of a wet noodle.

I bought my first "own" PC in 2001, and it was twice as powerful as what was needed to run FF11. That was of course a high-end PC at the time, but I am sure lower end PCs could run it too. If your PC is *actually* 10 years old anyway, and you weren't just exaggerating it by a couple of years. A 2004 PC would have absolutely no problems whatsoever.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

You can get infomercial PCs for easy payments of $19.95. Think of it as a subscription fee.

[Raka]

I play on both PC and PS2 for FINAL FANTASY XI, I play it on PS2 slightly more...Call me old fashion, but you won't see my vote to shut PS2 support down either. That's being greedy and selfish from my perspective, and I can't understand why people are pushing the issue of it at the moment.

We can't even put a percentage on how many people use PS2 still, and I have no clue how everyone has come to "8%" or so, point me to where you found this if possible.

Everyone has a valid point here, and I'm not trying to offend anyone. Just confused why this is being such a big deal. I wouldn't mind seeing new areas though rather than reskinned terrain, but to make a percentage of the user community buy a PC or XBOX360 for that very reason would be selfish.

Like I said though, this is my opinion.

[jeffanddane]

SE should just host a torrent file that allows you to download the disc's without payment . . . . . Like maybe options like

Click here if your already a member. And that would be the download one
Click here if your not a member. That would be for the people who have to buy it.

[CrystalWeapon]

SE should just host a torrent file that allows you to download the disc's without payment . . . . . Like maybe options like

Click here if your already a member. And that would be the download one
Click here if your not a member. That would be for the people who have to buy it.

I doubt that's going to happen for the ps2, it seems like they are slowly trying to phase out the ps2 via passive agressive measures. If they wanted to do that they could easily distribute a downloadable iso of the original disks. As tsu has said, you can dl the pc version of the game for free.

As for it being selfish to ask people to move, it's just as selfish to refuse to show any effort to move especially if you do own both systems. It's a sore subject to alot of players because they feel like the many are being punished for the few. (Can't have this b/c of ps2 limitations. Can't have that b/c of ps2 limitations) I like playing on both the pc and the ps2 as well, but if I wanted to simulate the experience on my pc it's not insainly hard. Take a trip to Radio Shack, you can get hookups to connect your pc to your tv. It's pretty cheap to get a good gamming controller. You could also do as it's been stated many times in this thread, and find hookups to connect your existing controller to your pc.

I've said this previously and again not to be mean, but if you can't afford a few hundred to invest in a semi decent pc or used xbox 360, you shouldn't be blowing your precious cash on a monthly mmo.