FFXI death, PS2 fault?

[Nightshade]

The best you'll ever see in dropping PS2 support is FFXI-2: Same world, same mecanic, same initial content, stand-alone. Maybe if you're nice, they will support account backward compatibility to port your character.

In software, the rule of thumb is that minimal spec cannot be altered regardless of how many patches have been made for a software. If you want to change the minimal spec, you must make a new release. Those who doesn't normally follow that rule usually have conflicts with customer.

Don't expect PS2 being dropped and hope for a stand-alone remake.

Also, courtesy normally wants the developer to implement backward compatibilty for the users to keep what is already gained but from there on, the new release can no longer interact with the old.

[Rambus]

Be nice to have more offical servays like that, but if PS2 users are really that low its time to cut thee ties to it.

[Alhanelem]

FFXI death, PS2 fault?

Yes, it is.

[Shewp]

Yes, it is.

Yep. The PS2 is like having a giant fat person chained on top of you, it really limits where you can go. Set us free SE!

[Hotsume]

You make an excellent point. I only wish it wasn't true.

[Myew]

@Emissary
"The PS2 version was released well after the PC version "
I am sure you actually meant the reverse. The PC version was always planned and was released only 6 months after the PS2 version. People knew there would be a PC release before the game even came out. The only reason the numbers of PS2 players in Japan is relatively high is simply because it was released on the PS2 first. In NA, it was released on the PC first with a 5 month delay for the PS2 version. (Due to Sony pushing back the HDD release date)

Your technical knowledge is limited at best and full of hyperbole. Changing the registry settings would take 5 minutes at most. It doesn't matter what graphics card manufacturer you are using as long as it isn't older than a PS2. And the graphics pipeline is not the issue when it comes to slow down. (Sole exception being the Conflux crystals)

What would change. The real issue here isn't graphics, but system memory. The PS2 is sporting only 32M of RAM. Your damn phone has more memory than this. Everything you have immediate access to needs to be loaded into RAM. This means ever job, ability, spell, inventory, equipment, global model, auto-translate definitions, etc all need to be existing simultaneously. The wizards at SE have been doing a marvelous job finding ways to fit more and more into this memory chunk. They are mostly out now. If they increased the minimum memory footprint then they would be able to add more areas, jobs, etc. This would of course mean they have to drop PS2 support in order to do the increase.

[Dreimar]

@Emissary
"The PS2 version was released well after the PC version "
I am sure you actually meant the reverse. The PC version was always planned and was released only 6 months after the PS2 version. People knew there would be a PC release before the game even came out. The only reason the numbers of PS2 players in Japan is relatively high is simply because it was released on the PS2 first. In NA, it was released on the PC first with a 5 month delay for the PS2 version. (Due to Sony pushing back the HDD release date)

Your technical knowledge is limited at best and full of hyperbole. Changing the registry settings would take 5 minutes at most. It doesn't matter what graphics card manufacturer you are using as long as it isn't older than a PS2. And the graphics pipeline is not the issue when it comes to slow down. (Sole exception being the Conflux crystals)

What would change. The real issue here isn't graphics, but system memory. The PS2 is sporting only 32M of RAM. Your damn phone has more memory than this. Everything you have immediate access to needs to be loaded into RAM. This means ever job, ability, spell, inventory, equipment, global model, auto-translate definitions, etc all need to be existing simultaneously. The wizards at SE have been doing a marvelous job finding ways to fit more and more into this memory chunk. They are mostly out now. If they increased the minimum memory footprint then they would be able to add more areas, jobs, etc. This would of course mean they have to drop PS2 support in order to do the increase.

I agree.
We just need to know how many PS2 active accounts chain us to the past :\
Anyone know if there a way to know Official percentage of accounts repartition ?
or SE just wont let anyone know ?

[Kennocha]

Eve online throughout its life cycle has dropped support for older and older hardware raising the minimum required to play without much negativity. The problem is announcing the change ahead of time, then slowly phasing it in.

Saying it can't be done, is not entirely truthful.

[Draylo]

Please remove ps2 support.. this game will thrive from that

[bungiefan]

That's a hard thing to count anyway, since any account can log in on any platform. I switch between JP PS2, NA PS2, and NA PC with my JP account from PS2 launch. What sort of user would I be counted as? I prefer PS2, and use it most of the time for stability, and run it on a second monitor next to my computer so I can have a wiki up or something.