Can we have a Light Spirit adjustment soon?

[Korpg]

<insert job here> isn't LOL when you have <insert empyrean weapon here>.

Except SMN.

[Alhanelem]

Let's keep that in the 1100 post thread dedicated to the topic, k thanks.

[Korpg]

But it is true! And you know it!

[Alhanelem]

Yes, it's true that it should be kept in that thread. Now stop trolling.

[Korpg]

Sorry, a weapon that requires a job to be what it is not is a lolweapon.

[Leonlionheart]

<insert job here> isn't LOL when you have <insert empyrean weapon here>.

PUP doesn't have to have an empyrean weapon any more than any other job does.

WHM DD, still LOL.
BLM Melee DD, still LOL.
RDM Melee DD, still LOL. Yes, even Almace can't make up for RDM's lack of DD capabilities when compared to other Emp users.
SMN Melee DD, still LOL.
SCH Melee DD, still LOL.

You still haven't answered the question though; what is PUP better than in terms of Melee DD? Actual DPS?

The only thing I can see PUP being better than, is if it had a DNC w/ 5/5 Haste Samba, Haste spell, and March+4 x2 (Or SV March). In which case it would only really be better than Mages, RNG and COR DDs.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

BRD-They do have a lot of useless songs, but can still be useful in certain situations. Any good BRD isn't limited to 2 songs anyway. Any great BRD can have 3 songs on one person.

That is not the mark of a great brd, it's only a sign that a person had time to finish an instrumant trial.

[Yarly]

No.

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[Alhanelem]

WHM DD, still LOL.
BLM Melee DD, still LOL.
RDM Melee DD, still LOL. Yes, even Almace can't make up for RDM's lack of DD capabilities when compared to other Emp users.
SMN Melee DD, still LOL.
SCH Melee DD, still LOL.

You still haven't answered the question though; what is PUP better than in terms of Melee DD? Actual DPS?

The only thing I can see PUP being better than, is if it had a DNC w/ 5/5 Haste Samba, Haste spell, and March+4 x2 (Or SV March). In which case it would only really be better than Mages, RNG and COR DDs.

PUP > DRK RNG COR BRD all mages; PUP is on the same level with DDs below the top tier, e.g. MNK WAR and whoever else you put up there.

You clearly haven't played with a good PUP if you think they're barely better than mages. PUP is no longer LOL, plain and simple. Most of the playerbase recognizes this. It is rare to see people going around saying LOLPUP randomly anymore. Good PUPs are for the most part respected. You have Victory Smite with either vereth or WoE+2, and you have tactical switch, and when your TS is down, the new automaton weapon skills are a vast improvement, the ranged one is on par with VS used by PUP and barrage turbine ups sharpshot's total a bit more (shame it doesn't work with the other frames anymore). PUP's not numero uno by any means, but it can play with the big boys now.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Pup will always be lol regardless of how much dmg it can put uot. It's just it's place in the universe.
And I've seen top tier pups, they can do rediculous damage as other jobs can.