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[Karbuncle]

1. It allows me to feel safe in asking questions and trying to be a better player.

This is a bad excuse. Not a single person will ever think less of you because you're taking the initiative to learn your job and learn more. In fact this is usually praised. The worst people are those who spew misinformation as fact and refuse to learn. You don't fall into this category.

So not that "you're bad", Simply this is something you shouldn't fear. Most/all People look up on those who would try to better themselves, You should never fear asking a question that will improve yourself.

2. On my last online game I was followed by some guy who wanted to date me even after I changed servers.

Thats creepy, But also harassment/abuse. You can blist this person and GM him and it gets rid of the problem. However, Did he find/track you in-game? or over a forum. If it was in-game, Everyone in-game already knows you in-game name. If it was via forum, I understand your concerns...

[Habiki]

I only disagree with this sentiment because it would prevent new players and old players returning on brand new characters from posting for perfectly valid reasons. Won't somebody please think of the New Players Forum!

Well if they did restrict it to lvl 30 or above to post it wouldn't have to be across all the topic sections, LvL 1's should definatly be allowed to post in such places as, new players, technical support, and in game bugs. Theres no reason a new player should be posting about adjustments to content they haven't experianced though it doesn't help further discussions in the slightest.

[Habiki]

You don't visit here much do you? Almost all the worst posters here show their proper character details, check and see.

As for the level 30 thing, you can get to 30 easily in a day with fov on a mule, or a couple of hours if you have the means. What they should do is force you to show all your characters on an account, that way you can't use a mule!

Question is would you really level up a job to lvl 30 just to post if the change was made, just so you could remain anonymous. I don't think most players would they would likely just stop posting because they couldn't get away with being a complete a$$ without putting some work into it, this doesn't apply to all people who link their mules but theres some that abuse the feature to no end and to clean up the forums it needs to be restricted.

[Runespider]

I'm sorry if this comes off as rude but I do not want to look around for your opinion. I asked you if you could name me the people you feel were good posters who stopped posting.

Look at hordecores last post on the front page, in there are many posters that were regulars here. If you check them reading down the list you will see many names where their last activity was around the time they added the new feature. The list of players that never upgraded their account shows quite clearly in that topic too, but yes I was thinking of the people you mentioned as well as others like raist and some others you can see in that topic.

I was hesitant to bother replying because ultimately you will come back with "the forum will live on without them" but that really isn't the point, the point is they are being denied access to a forum due to being forced to do something they should not have to do...and they should have every right to access this place without having to do something they disagree with and that serves almost no purpose. They have as much right to have their ideas and posts heard and discussed as anyone else, I was hoping for this forum to be used by as wide an array of FFXI players as possible.

Ya as I said before, and Karbuncle is addressing this, the act of a forum troll is not that their opinion differs... Oh no, its that they start an argument, and prolong it until people give up and accept their statement.

A troll is somone that posts things simply to get other people annoyed and getting enjoyment from that, they don't actually care about what they are posting about. Someone who dissagrees with you is not a troll, I am not trolling anyone. I don't care if you get mad or kiss my feet with adoration, it makes no difference to me. All I care about is that I feel this forced linking was a bad idea, that it did make us lose some decent posters, that I personally am against it as are some others and that it's warping the community here ("opinions of anyone that does not have a valid account linked is garbage" "a posters worth is more to do with who they are in game than what they have to say" etc). Idiocy.

when a ratio of 6 to 2 people agree that linking names is ok in the eyes of the community. To say otherwise is just denying majority vote here, and while we are not exactly a representation of the entire community, if a fraction of us say yes, and an even miniscule fraction say no, what do you think that will say in the grander spectrum of the community? Pretty sure the same thing.

As I said before the problem is a lot of people seem to of stopped posting, if not for the fact that we can use a mule and stay anon anyway there would of been at least another 3-4 from this topic alone. They can't post here anymore cause they can't post without doing what they refuse to do, some people had issues with this and drew the line.

[Neonii]

This is a bad excuse. Not a single person will ever think less of you because you're taking the initiative to learn your job and learn more. In fact this is usually praised. The worst people are those who spew misinformation as fact and refuse to learn. You don't fall into this category.

So not that "you're bad", Simply this is something you shouldn't fear. Most/all People look up on those who would try to better themselves, You should never fear asking a question that will improve yourself.



Thats creepy, But also harassment/abuse. You can blist this person and GM him and it gets rid of the problem. However, Did he find/track you in-game? or over a forum. If it was in-game, Everyone in-game already knows you in-game name. If it was via forum, I understand your concerns...

In real life I am shy, I don't like to draw attention to myself. My personality is what it is not an excuse. He located me by looking up ls (called guilds on that game) forums and looking at their member list. Blacklist did not stop the gossip and innuendo. I was just attempting to point out that a person can have any reasons to list a mule, not just to flame or brag ect. Thank you for the encouragement thou .

[Karbuncle]

Look at hordecores last post on the front page, in there are many posters that were regulars here. If you check them reading down the list you will see many names where their last activity was around the time they added the new feature. The list of players that never upgraded their account shows quite clearly in that topic too, but yes I was thinking of the people you mentioned as well as others like raist and some others you can see in that topic.

You said a lot of "Good" Posters. Hordecore was far from "Good", he was an awful Troll. Again, This is my Opinion on him, And our Opinions differ. So i would have never once guessed "hordecore" when someone mentioned "A list of good posters who stopped posting". Which is why I specifically asked you who you thought were the good posters who stopped posting.

Because our definitions of good are far different it seems if you feel hordecore was a lost to the forums >_>.

I was hesitant to bother replying because ultimately you will come back with "the forum will live on without them" but that really isn't the point, the point is they are being denied access to a forum due to being forced to do something they should not have to do...and they should have every right to access this place without having to do something they disagree with and that serves almost no purpose.

They're not being denied access. They're choosing Anonymity over Access to the forums. Rather you think its a fair choice or not is 100% moot and meaningless.

They have/had a choice, Pick a Character or mule and continue posting, Or quit posting and remain anonymous/lurk the forums. another thing is they can still read the forums, They simply need to conform to the rules laid by SE if they want to post.

Rather its pointless or not is equally meaningless, SE thinks it has a point, and its their website, therefore we either comply or stop posting. Rather i agree or disagree is equally meaningless because it wont change anything.

They have as much right to have their ideas and posts heard and discussed as anyone else, I was hoping for this forum to be used by as wide an array of FFXI players as possible.

Yah, they do, I agree with this.

However, Problem is they're choosing to relinquish that right in order to remain anonymous. Which again, Rather you find this fair or not is moot. Every Forum has rules, This Forum happens to make you link your account, If you don't want to follow the rules, its your choice not to post.

We have a choice, no one is denied anything. Its their own choice to either pick a character/mule, or simply stop posting.

[Runespider]

Look at hordecores last post on the front page, in there are many posters that were regulars here.

You said a lot of "Good" Posters. Hordecore was far from "Good", he was an awful Troll. Again

Was it really that hard to understand? I was pointing at his topic that had a lot of good posters in it...not him.

I didn't even read the rest of your post, that was enough to stop at.

[Karbuncle]

Was it really that hard to understand? I was pointing at his topic that had a lot of good posters in it...not him.

I didn't even read the rest of your post, that was enough to stop at.

Oh, So now you're being going to belittle my post and refuse to read based on one line?

Congratulations, you epitomize the very things you hate.

Edit: I mean, At least i took the time to read your post and attempt to understand who you thought were good posters now gone (which you still never answered, You just keep telling me to look for myself, and my attempts to explain to you how our opinions vary when it comes to the term "Good" go ignored).

Its quite hypocritical to claim the website lost a lot of good poster and that its deny versatility then turn around and insult/belittle someones post simply because they misunderstood a single section of your own?

Doesn't that seem to contribute to the downfall of the forums a bit? I mean its awfully uncalled for.

[Dallas]

One person got it exactly right. Here's the scenario:

You are sitting at a bar. Some guy sits next to you and asks your name. You don't tell him. He insists that he has a right to know your name. He starts trashing you for not telling him. There is a word for it. CREEPY. In the real world, this guy gets thrown out of bars, fired from jobs, or even arrested. Online, this guy thrives.

If you think anyone OWES you their character name, you are VERY creepy.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post130901

As I warned at the beginning of this thread, I had bigger plans. I've always said the information flows in one direction. When they announced this change, I performed yet another service to the FFXI community. I proved without a doubt that I was the only person capable of perpetuating the longest thread. The creepy people who "demand justice" are not the source of information.

I have told everyone who I am. I am the same poster from wiki forums who directly caused 2 unpopular pet jobs to be nerfed. I had a choice. Share with the entire community, report it as broken and avoid it, or risk a Salvage-esque end to my gaming career. Post nerf, both jobs still jumped 6 positions in the census because of my choice.

That's all you get to know about me. I produce results and am one heck of a conversational piece.

[Khiinroye]

Except it's not like going into a bar. It's like going into a conference where you have to provide wear a badge saying who you are.