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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Okay, I think i just realized this has nothing to do with the forums. its "I'M GROWN UP AND I DONT WANNA! I DONT WANNA I DONT WANNA I DONT WANNA" argument now.

    Its never been about linking character Data, you just don't like being told what to do. Its okay really. I understand how you feel.
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    Click new posts up at the top, about 50% of them are worthless suggestions, complaints, and just fodder in general. Not worth putting thought into, much better for just trolling. If you want to put thought and consideration into your posts, do it on a forum worthy of such.
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    The only truely sad part of this whole thing is that it stopped a lot of decent posters being active here (on forums their subscriptions pay for), whether because they were worried about ingame privacy, because they wanted the two to be kept seperate or because they just didn't want to be forced to do something utterly pointless.

    Personally I wanted more people to post here, not less.

    Honestly the silly part of this whole thing is, the forums that have had the biggest impact on FFXI over the years are all anon to post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    The only truely sad part of this whole thing is that it stopped a lot of decent posters being active here (on forums their subscriptions pay for), whether because they were worried about ingame privacy, because they wanted the two to be kept seperate or because they just didn't want to be forced to do something utterly pointless.

    Personally I wanted more people to post here, not less.

    Honestly the silly part of this whole thing is, the forums that have had the biggest impact on FFXI over the years are all anon to post.
    I ask this in complete seriousness.

    Who do you consider a "decent poster" who stopped posting because of this? Cause when i look around i still see the same names i consider the best and most knowledgeable posters still posting.
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    Look around the topics on here, you will see quite a lot of worthwhile posters who have no characters linked to their accounts, many of them seem to of stopped posting around the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Look around the topics on here, you will see quite a lot of worthwhile posters who have no characters linked to their accounts, many of them seem to of stopped posting around the same time.
    I'm sorry if this comes off as rude but I do not want to look around for your opinion. I asked you if you could name me the people you feel were good posters who stopped posting.

    I Can't look at the beginning of this thread and find people you think were good, Our opinions are different. I'd like you to name them so i can more easily see and understand the point you are trying to make.

    Obviously our opinions on good posters are different, Good is a subjective term, Which is why i asked you which do you feel are the good posters who are gone now. Because our opinions on good will vary, I Can look back and not find anyone, while you may have some names in mind.

    Edit: The only people I don't see with linked accounts are "Tsukino_Kaji", Who was actually for this adjustment, So i doubt thats why he stopped posting, and GlobalVariable, who after reading I think is probably the one "not bad" person to stop posting. He wasn't bad/troll, But the forums will live without him.

    Edit2: Looks like Tsukino is posting now though. So its just GlobalVariable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Edit: The only people I don't see with linked accounts are "Tsukino_Kaji"
    Funny story actualy. I linked right away and imediately complained that it displayed me as sam instead of whm when sam had never been selected. Is what happed was, I fell victim to that july payment glitch. Which, without an active ID, seems to have dropped it while my account was down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Funny story actualy. I linked right away and imediately complained that it displayed me as sam instead of whm when sam had never been selected. Is what happed was, I fell victim to that july payment glitch. Which, without an active ID, seems to have dropped it while my account was down.
    Lordy >_>, That really sucks D:
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    Ya as I said before, and Karbuncle is addressing this, the act of a forum troll is not that their opinion differs... Oh no, its that they start an argument, and prolong it until people give up and accept their statement. Til then they will keep fueling a pointless argument, that has reached its end probably 10-20 pages ago, when a ratio of 6 to 2 people agree that linking names is ok in the eyes of the community. To say otherwise is just denying majority vote here, and while we are not exactly a representation of the entire community, if a fraction of us say yes, and an even miniscule fraction say no, what do you think that will say in the grander spectrum of the community? Pretty sure the same thing.

    I would love to see who actually stopped posting, because from what I can tell.... no one has stopped posting, everybody linked their characters as soon as possible, and a lot of us still enjoy posting here. If you can name some people, their post amount, and to what topics they did such a "monumental contribution" to please, write them down, but pretty much.... everything is the same, except now your avatar info is below your Screen Name. I pretty much fail to see a reason to keep griping about this when its clear that people are ok with avatar information being displayed, and I personally want it to stay.
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    I'm sorry if this comes off as rude but I do not want to look around for your opinion. I asked you if you could name me the people you feel were good posters who stopped posting.
    Look at hordecores last post on the front page, in there are many posters that were regulars here. If you check them reading down the list you will see many names where their last activity was around the time they added the new feature. The list of players that never upgraded their account shows quite clearly in that topic too, but yes I was thinking of the people you mentioned as well as others like raist and some others you can see in that topic.

    I was hesitant to bother replying because ultimately you will come back with "the forum will live on without them" but that really isn't the point, the point is they are being denied access to a forum due to being forced to do something they should not have to do...and they should have every right to access this place without having to do something they disagree with and that serves almost no purpose. They have as much right to have their ideas and posts heard and discussed as anyone else, I was hoping for this forum to be used by as wide an array of FFXI players as possible.

    Ya as I said before, and Karbuncle is addressing this, the act of a forum troll is not that their opinion differs... Oh no, its that they start an argument, and prolong it until people give up and accept their statement.
    A troll is somone that posts things simply to get other people annoyed and getting enjoyment from that, they don't actually care about what they are posting about. Someone who dissagrees with you is not a troll, I am not trolling anyone. I don't care if you get mad or kiss my feet with adoration, it makes no difference to me. All I care about is that I feel this forced linking was a bad idea, that it did make us lose some decent posters, that I personally am against it as are some others and that it's warping the community here ("opinions of anyone that does not have a valid account linked is garbage" "a posters worth is more to do with who they are in game than what they have to say" etc). Idiocy.

    when a ratio of 6 to 2 people agree that linking names is ok in the eyes of the community. To say otherwise is just denying majority vote here, and while we are not exactly a representation of the entire community, if a fraction of us say yes, and an even miniscule fraction say no, what do you think that will say in the grander spectrum of the community? Pretty sure the same thing.
    As I said before the problem is a lot of people seem to of stopped posting, if not for the fact that we can use a mule and stay anon anyway there would of been at least another 3-4 from this topic alone. They can't post here anymore cause they can't post without doing what they refuse to do, some people had issues with this and drew the line.
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