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    Player Tamarsamar's Avatar
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    I agree with Karbuncle in that personal information no more at stake than it was previously.

    I disagree with the notion that ad hominem attacks wouldn't be made possible, however.

    So I will be dropping off the face of the forums in the coming week. So what.
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    I love back in 2006 when they said Mythics would be the casual-player's alternative to Relic weapons.
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    No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
    FFXI Official Forums in a nutshell:

    Quote Originally Posted by saevel
    The stupid is strong here.

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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarsamar View Post
    I agree with Karbuncle in that personal information no more at stake than it was previously.

    I disagree with the notion that ad hominem attacks wouldn't be made possible, however.

    So I will be dropping off the face of the forums in the coming week. So what.
    While it is your right to disagree, I will attempt to show you the error of your ways.

    I would offer you my personal guarantee that anything you do on a forum will have minimal to null impact on your FFXI experience. But it likely means very little.

    As a long time forumer i continue to say i have yet to receive negative attention in game over a forum. In fact on more than one occasion i have received positive attention. Its awkward, but Its not negative at least.

    Anyway, at the very least, those who will cease posting will be able to continue browsing the forums with little hindrance. which is a small positive.
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    Player Daremo's Avatar
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    For me, it's more about the principle. If given the choice I might choose to reveal such info as that(in truth, looking at my history of info sharing that's rather unlikely, but it could happen), if I felt it served a purpose, or was fun to do so. Being forced to show that information is simply not something I can tolerate. It'll be a shame to no longer be able to post here, but if that's how SE wants to play it, so be it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Real Life name/Address =/= Artificial Pixelated Character/Server being displayed on a Forum.
    Information I want kept private = Information I want kept private, whatever it's nature.

    No one other than me should be deciding how much or how little of my information gets distributed on the internet.
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    Last edited by Daremo; 06-27-2011 at 03:07 PM.

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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daremo View Post
    Information I want kept private = Information I want kept private, whatever it's nature.

    No one other than me should be deciding how much or how little of my information gets distributed on the internet.
    The impending rules on teh forum say otherwise and you'll have no choice but to agree or not use the forum. This aplies to everyone. So people are left with the descision.

    I wonder if the MODs have to use SE accounts to log in? lol
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    Player Yarly's Avatar
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    Great, now we will know who makes all these idiotic forum posts demanding the devs to do stupid crap like change wyvern colors because you know that will be the #1 priority. Forget job balancing/changes and stuff. I want more job emotes too!
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    I'll wait and see how it actually works, if you can use a mule this change will ultimately be for nothing anyway (aside from making people with no mule buy one if they care ofc).

    If they actually really seriously want to enforce this and make you use the highest level character on the account, well that will be the point people will have to decide if they want to be forced to do something they disagree with just to post on a forum.

    It probably won't damage the forum that much either way but considering a lot of people that would post here don't due to the login stuff this could be another cut in possible users.
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Privacy is a BIG DEAL on the Internet .. and has nothing whatsoever to do with characters one rents in a video game.
    The game and the forum are two seperate entities, some would like to keep it that way. The point is people want them to be seperate so why should they not allowed to be able to keep them seperate, whatever the reason.

    The stupid part is that the people that are finding this a bad thing are not the trolls, they are just the normal posters. Trolls don't give a sh**.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    The game and the forum are two seperate entities
    This forum is inexorably linked with the game, just because you're not playing the forum with your character, dose not mean that they are seperate entities. Same coin and all.
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    Player Daremo's Avatar
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    Since you seem to have not gotten it the first time:

    Information I want kept private = Information I want kept private, whatever it's nature.

    What you think of the value of that information is irrelevant. It's not your decision to make, nor should it be SE's. Nor ultimately will it. It'll be my decision to to log in or not, and currently that's reading 'not'.
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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daremo View Post
    Since you seem to have not gotten it the first time:

    Information I want kept private = Information I want kept private, whatever it's nature.

    What you think of the value of that information is irrelevant. It's not your decision to make, nor should it be SE's. Nor ultimately will it. It'll be my decision to to log in or not, and currently that's reading 'not'.
    Only to the bold, yes it is. Its not your character. Its Their character, They allow you to use it in exchange for 12.95. however they can do whatever they want with it and you have no say in the matter. Its sad but true.

    You see, That's what you agree to the second you log on and click "Accept" to the ToS every time you log on. You own nothing. its not private at all, Its public information if SE so deems it to be. If you even got the slightest hint that this information is yours and should be private you were wrong from the beginning, and SE nor anyone here can be blamed that you thought your character information was yours to decide what to do with.

    So the only choice you have in this is of course deciding rather or not you want to log into the forums anymore. And you have all the right in the world to decide not to log on. However your "private" FFXI Character information is not private, its not even yours, Its property of SE. you had not privacy to begin with. it was just the false image of "privacy".

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you stupid or anything, Simply that any illusion you had of your character information being in your control is simply that, an illusion. It was SE's from the beginning and still is.

    I understand wanting to remain anonymous. Its just i understand I never have a choice in the matter when it comes to an "Official" forum. Because its run by the people who own your characters. If they decided you had to link your PLayonline ID to be displayed they could. (They wouldn't, but they could). It just comes with the forums.

    Not saying you shouldn't be upset, Just saying I currently am not upset by these changes. You yourself are allowed to be however.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 06-27-2011 at 04:26 PM.

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