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    Player Octaviane's Avatar
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    Random Discoveries in FFXI Wiki accuracy

    Not that it's a huge deal (not to me anyway) and yes, it's understood FFXI wiki was created and edited by the player base. I am surprised though by the number of errors/misinformation. Could be just typo's or an individuals interpretation based on their personal results.

    Running around levelling a mule to have some fun, I discovered that the worst errors were in Fame level requirements. For example: I received a Fame 3 quest in Bastok while still only Fame 2 and it was 6 or 7 more quests before I actually got Fame 3.

    In Jeuno, The Goblin Tailor and Gobbie Bag I are shown in the Jeuno Quest availabilty as requiring Fame 2, yet when you actually click on them they show Fame 3 required.

    For the Tenshodo Membership quest, minimum level is 10+ and Fame 3 (iirc). I couldn't click on the blank line even though I was level 21 (but not Fame 3), yet you can go buy an Invite, trade it to the NPC at the front desk, get your membership card and get an invite back to give to friends or sell. Nice touch really though.

    The Bastok quest Vengeful Wrath given by Goraow in Mines is a level driven quest (obviously, if you take the time to check to see where and which mobs drop the Quadav Helm). I had forgotten about this from long ago on main, talked to the NPC on MNK 16, he asked for the helm but wouldn't take the trade, and the Quest didn't show up in my Quest log. I changed to THF 20 (minimum level for Quadav's in Pashhow Marshlands), the quest showed in my log and I traded successfully. However! the Quest doesn't actually tell you this and you HAVE to know how big of a hurry people are in these days to get things done. Yes, believe me, I have seen quite a few people (level 90 even) running around doing Fame quests. Top of Zegham Hill one example, a level 90 WHM doing the same Fame 2 quest I was doing. FOR DA ATMA! Yes I know. And the 300k from getting to Rank 10.

    Anyway, just a fun thread really, but does anyone have other instances that have caught you by surprise or just made you GRRRRRR!
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    soo instead of writing an essay about how these wiki pages are inacurate, try editing them yourself?
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    Ffxiclopedia's information is split into 3 categories.

    Category A: Total crap misinformation that some tard was able to get away with posting because no one who knew better corrected it.

    Category B: Information lifted shamelessly from NPO sites like BGWiki and BlueGartr with absolutely no citation or credit. This is illegal by the way, as the information is being moved from a site with a non-profit license to a for-profit site (Wikia) without citation.

    Category C: Information posted on ffxiclopedia that is both correct and not stolen from somewhere else.

    Unfortunately, categories A and B tend to eclipse category C by a great deal, especially in regards to new content.

    The only real solution is to just take everything on Wiki with a massive grain of salt, and ask a question on a more respected site if you want a legit answer.

    And no, you can't just edit them yourself because wiki mods like Charitwo are allergic to legit information.
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    While I can't say I was surprised or even "grrr", yes, the Wikia does have tons of wrong/misleading information. One such example is claiming that you need to use the maw after defeating a zone boss in an abyssea zone for the first time to get the cutscene. This is entirely untrue, as you can just warp out (scroll or otherwise) and abyssea npc warp to the correct maw and get the cutscene.

    That being said, that is a very very poor example, and I'm sure there are far worse examples of how poorly upheld the Wikia is.

    So then why don't people fix it? I don't speak for everyone but I absolutely refuse to add or alter any information on anything Wikia anymore, as frankly, I want to see it burn. That, of course, is an entirely different story, involving a PoS template called Oasis that ruined hundreds upon hundreds of perfectly fine wikis on Wikia. (Which inevitably lead to a mass-exodus of wikis away from Wikia)

    And, yeah, after that, then there's the ffxiclopedia staff, that most people who can correct such information, hate, for various reasons.

    Why not fix things on the Wikia? It's simple: not going to waste my time just to have it destroyed, reverted back to being wrong, or stolen by Wikia (they apparently believe anything posted about anything on anything Wikia, true or false, becomes property of Wikia).

    Clarification: ffxiclopedia is part of Wikia, I mostly refer to Wikia in this post, not ffxiclopedia specifically. Wikia is far broader than just ffxiclopedia.
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    Player Octaviane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    soo instead of writing an essay about how these wiki pages are inacurate, try editing them yourself?
    I did..............check before you post
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    Psst.

    Guys.

    If you're tired of Wikia, there's kind of this new place called "Gamer Escape" where everybody is right now.

    Just putting that out there.
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    Player Octaviane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamarsamar View Post
    Psst.

    Guys.

    If you're tired of Wikia, there's kind of this new place called "Gamer Escape" where everybody is right now.

    Just putting that out there.
    Psst! Just having some fun, didn't you read that part? Ty for the info though.
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    The wiki often has outdated information. It also has a habit of making everything sound like a deathtrap.

    If you have questions about a specific NM, you'd be better off asking others about it rather than reading about it on the Wiki. The wiki's primary use is for looking up simple things like where something drops or information on synths or locations of mobs within a zone for TOTM purposes.

    And yeah, the amount of information lifted from BG is astounding. The same thing happens with info originating from ZAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaviane View Post
    I did..............check before you post
    Sorry your moan fest was tl;dr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    Why not fix things on the Wikia? It's simple: not going to waste my time just to have it destroyed, reverted back to being wrong, or stolen by Wikia (they apparently believe anything posted about anything on anything Wikia, true or false, becomes property of Wikia).
    Er... that's actually an extremely common thing. Not even remotely unique to Wikia.
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