Jupiter's staff question

[noodles355]

Note: I am not saying, nor have ever said "No, that's wrong, ranged crit rate is determined by dex". There is as much proof that it's affected by dex as there is that it's affected by agi: none. No tests with reported data. Untill someone is able to prove it one way or the other, I will be contesting any claims that it is one or the other because "it makes more sense".

People should never state opnions as fact. "There's a lot of AGI on rng gear so it's probably affected by agi" is an opinion and really means "There's a lot of agi gear, so I think it's probably affected by agi." This is reasonable idea, but no where near enough to make a sound conclusion.

[Catsby]

I think what he was going for was AGI isn't that hard to find if you are trying to cap crit rate.

[Rearden]

I don't think anyone assumes 80-90 AGI for xp levels mobs at 90, but please, continue making numbers up.

[Catsby]

I don't think anyone assumes 80-90 AGI for xp levels mobs at 90, but please, continue making numbers up.

What are the real numbers then?

[noodles355]

I think what he was going for was AGI isn't that hard to find if you are trying to cap crit rate.

And as I just said, that's irrleevant. That it's easier to get AGI gear does not mean AGI affects crit rate.

I don't think anyone assumes 80-90 AGI for xp levels mobs at 90, but please, continue making numbers up.

Concidering a Lv82 colibri has 67 AGI (proven), a job combo that also has 67 AGI at lv82 should have (by mapping the stat increases per level so far) somewhere a bit over 80 AGI at Lv100 and that Colibri are Red Mage which have naturally low AGI, I would say it's pretty fair to assume somewhere around 80-90 AGI for an IT exp mob. But please, continue to debunk the idea without putting any sort of useful thought into it at all. it's pro.

[Rearden]

Quoting 67AGI on Colibri to those of us who geared for that as the standard for three years is kind of silly, hence my original post anyway.

Assumed number for XP mobs is 93 AGI, NM's in the 97-100 range.

Assumptions for 95-99cap put NM's at 105-110AGI which is going to make our dDEX builds difficult to maintain under current gear sets unless new stuff becomes available or augments/crit+ gear is also added to supplement this.

Questions.

[noodles355]

Interesting to see you think it's higher than 80-90. Your first reply suggested to me that you thought it would be lower, and that my argument was wrong. Being evern higher only further strengthens my point.
To be honest when ever I'm trying to prove a silly statement (such as you should easilly cap crit rate from [AGI or DEX, whichever it is] outside abyssea) I'm always conservative and give the benefit of the doubt, so that there's no room for them to shout that I'm being bias against them.

If people are finding XP mobs to be somewhere around 90-95, then capping dDex (or dAGI, whichever it is) outside abyssea will be even harder, needing 140-145 (And a normal TP set having around 110AGI)