Extend Time Menu

[Raksha]

OK well since the other guy locked his own thread and cut me off while I was having a conversation, I'll create my own. I will not lock this thread, no matter how terrible it gets.

previous thread
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...theine-abyssea...

When that lore happens to tell you you shouldn't be spending excessive time in there because it may have unforeseen side effects and may actually cause you harm, that his people have gotten stuck in our world because they spent too much time here....um... yes, it's foreshadowing that your time NEEDS to be restricted in some way, and that the game is going to work against allowing you to just go in there all willy-nilly at your liesure.

You can already stay in abyssea infinitely with TEs this 'lore' you speak of is already being violated every day by most of the player base. Further more, TEs are described as "Strangely Familiar stone fragments" (I.E. fragments of traverser stones).

IF I CAN USE A FRAGMENT OF A TRAVERSER STONE TO EXTEND MY TIME, WHY CANT I USE AN ENTIRE STONE?

Your lore argument holds no water. EVEN IF IT DID, lore should not trump utility.

P.S. to people who think I'm whining about losing a stone, I'm not. I have over 400 stones and don't give a damn if I lose 15 minutes of one of them. What I am arguing is that I should be able to use a stone to extend my time while inside, NO MATTER HOW LONG IVE ALREADY BEEN INSIDE.

The uses of this would be limited, but I think, worth the MINOR change it would take to implement.

[Zagen]

Think about it... The lore reason for limiting your base time is because if you stay in there too long you would get stuck. To stay in there longer than the 120 you must actively keep fighting monsters for TEs essentially meaning you're stuck in there fighting monsters...

[RAIST]

The mechanic that is in-line with the lore is the initial 120 minutes. It also states there are alternative ways to extend your stay, but that does not involve the NPC's. Those NPC's caution against you staying for an extended time because they themselves have experienced detrimental effects to extended time in our world. Therefore, it just stands to reason that they would not willingly allow you to do something that would potentially put you at the same risk.

Go back and read it all again, and think about what they are saying and apply it to what they do. Their actions are in line with their words.

[Raksha]

Think about it... The lore reason for limiting your base time is because if you stay in there too long you would get stuck. To stay in there longer than the 120 you must actively keep fighting monsters for TEs essentially meaning you're stuck in there fighting monsters...

This makes no sense, I can use fragments of traverser stones to extend my time, but not entire traverser stones. I don't even need the conflux surveyor to to use the fragments, why do I need him to use the stones?

The mechanic that is in-line with the lore is the initial 120 minutes. It also states there are alternative ways to extend your stay, but that does not involve the NPC's. Those NPC's caution against you staying for an extended time because they themselves have experienced detrimental effects to extended time in our world. Therefore, it just stands to reason that they would not willingly allow you to do something that would potentially put you at the same risk.

Go back and read it all again, and think about what they are saying and apply it to what they do. Their actions are in line with their words.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself. I don't care which part of the lore affects what, the system as it is currently designed is retarded and near useless. If the lore is to blame for this then so be it, the lore is retarded and should be changed also.

However, I am not of the opinion that a change would be in violation of the lore. All it would require is adding an (EDIT: 3, actually) extra line of text:

NPC> Are you super duper duper duper sure you want to extend your stay, even though we've warned you of the risks, which aren't really risks since you can stay inside forever anyway with no repercussions at all?

ME> Yes, I'm sure.

NPC> So be it, you gain 48 additional minutes of visitant status.

[Raxiaz]

Yeah, I don't see how it's any different getting TEs from chests or TEs from NPC. SE ****ed themselves over on this one. Logic in FFXI? There never was such a thing.

[Tamoa]

Maybe it's because 1. stone fragment = only 10 minutes v/s traverser stone = 30+ minutes, 2. you need to be active and kill stuff to actually get TE chests.

Letting you add a traverser stone at any time and getting full 30+ minutes from it, would mean that the time restriction for abyssea is pointless.

[Raksha]

Letting you add a traverser stone at any time and getting full 30+ minutes from it, would mean that the time restriction for abyssea is pointless.

Your stone supply is limited, also the time restriction is already pointless now that everyone has lots of stones banked thanks to the game being down for weeks due to the earthquake.

[Raxiaz]

It was like a week and a half. Give me a break.

I have over 700 stones now, because I don't burn through stones like a ***. I've gotten 5/6 of the +3 min/stone abyssites. I also have all 3 celerity abyssites.

Traverser stone availability is irrelevant to me.

[Arlan]

It was like a week and a half. Give me a break.

I have over 700 stones now, because I don't burn through stones like a motherfucker. I've gotten 5/6 of the +3 min/stone abyssites. I also have all 3 celerity abyssites.

Traverser stone availability is irrelevant to me.

I do a lot of abyssea myself, but I have over 300 Stones cause I dont burn them crazy either.
I guess I'm really just not in a position to say much since the current system doesn't really effect my gaming.
Only thing I do in abyssea is skill up. lvl up, and do seals and Twilight dragon fights and some mega boss for friends.

[Raksha]

I guess I'm really just not in a position to say much since the current system doesn't really effect my gaming.

The current system doesn't affect anyone because there's no reason to use it -- it's useless.

That's why it needs to be changed.