A single simple solution to Paladin

[Dale]

When any job can get Cure IV from /WHM that means the only thing of value for cures is how much Cure Potency a given job can get in comparison to a PLD. And there are 8 other jobs that have better Cure Potency gear and/or better spells/abilities to help in the healer role it means PLD sucks at being a healer.

When a job comes in 9th place for a given task it is trying to accomplish that seems pretty sucky doesn't it?

/sigh

Again you have tunnel vision and can't see past the simple numbers. You are obsessing over minor things and totally ignoring some major ones. Being able to toss a cure 4 that does 420 compared to a cure 4 that does 460 or 470 isn't that big a deal. It just isn't...

The fact a Paladin can melee very well with a staff and use spirit taker to recover his mp for example is a real advantage. The Paladin has a native mp pool and can get up to +4 mp a tic from just gear and his job trait alone, not even counting the refresh spell or sublimation from support jobs, not to mention having a good defense as a healer is in itself a benefit, as cures create quite a bit of enmity. It can also add defensive buffs such as phalanx to the tank, making them take less damage to begin with.

Bottom line is Paladins don't suck at healing. I don't care where you place them in your imaginary totem pole of healers. They can get the job done in the vast majority of situations, and that's what matters in the end. Not 10 or 20% more cure potency on a piece of gear or w/e silly rank you want to give them.

[Greatguardian]

Right. It doesn't matter that they can keep you alive on the fight. All that matters is they aren't white mages. They aren't the best, so they must SUCK. Just like all nukes suck unless they are black mage right? lol...

I think I"m beginning to recognize a common theme here.

They can keep you alive during fights against extremely weak monsters, in areas where all the characters are rocking god mode / invincible and 4,000 HP, and where every melee has an infinite supply of Elixirs and the Paladin themselves has infinite MP and unnatural bonuses to Fast Cast and/or Cure Potency.

Yup. Best healer ever. Abyssea is freaking hard, man.

[Alienmonkey]

Anything slash whm can get the job done in the vast majority of situations.

[Dale]

They can keep you alive during fights against extremely weak monsters, in areas where all the characters are rocking god mode / invincible and 4,000 HP, and where every melee has an infinite supply of Elixirs and the Paladin themselves has infinite MP and unnatural bonuses to Fast Cast and/or Cure Potency.

Yup. Best healer ever. Abyssea is freaking hard, man.

Great Guardian, I wasn't even referring to Abyssea...

[Dale]

Anything slash whm can get the job done in the vast majority of situations.

No it can't.

Your warrior/whm for example would run out of mp very quickly...even with your light staff equipped

Regardless of what you may think alienmonkey, you can't jsut equip a light staff and sub white mage and turn any job into a great healer. It doesn't work that way.

[Greatguardian]

Paladin heals well outside Abyssea?

On what, exactly?

Also, definition of "Doing it well" is still different. You go be content with Paladin healing all you want. It still sucks to everyone else here who has significantly higher standards than you.

[Dale]

Paladin heals well outside Abyssea?

On what, exactly?

Also, definition of "Doing it well" is still different. You go be content with Paladin healing all you want. It still sucks to everyone else here who has significantly higher standards than you.

Yes, They can heal outside of abyssea... on just about everything. As I've tried to point out earlier if you would just read what i write. Lot of people (like yourself) underestimate the amoutn of healing a paladin is able to pull off.

And my standards are simple. If it gets the job done, then it don't suck. That's my standard.

[Greatguardian]

Considering how easy pretty much all non-Voidwatch content is right now, those are pretty piss-poor standards.

[Alienmonkey]

Regardless of what you may think alienmonkey, you can't jsut equip a light staff and sub white mage and turn any job into a great healer. It doesn't work that way.

Did I say it would be great? No. It will suck at healing compared to a real mage, just like pld will suck at healing compared to a real mage.

[Dale]

Did I say it would be great? No. It will suck at healing compared to a real mage, just like pld will suck at healing compared to a real mage.

But that's where you are wrong. Paladin compares quite well to other mages when it comes to healing. They don't have the hard hitting heal bombs a white mage does I admit, but they can get the job done and have excellent mana recovery if played right.

The point is your Warrior/White mage toting a light staff would suck when compared to a Paladin healing.