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    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Don't forget SCH for stronger Cures with JAs, AoE Buffs/Status removals. Sure a PLD/SCH could do this but not as well as SCH main due to only 2 charges not accounting for better cure gear.

    Or how RDM can handle curing for a longer amount of time due to refresh 2. Also that spiffy cure pot staff trumps light staff PLD can get.

    Or how about a BRD/WHM who is also on the cure pot staff and has access to ballad2/3 as well

    Edit: Forgot how SMN is on cure pot staff has access to a cure pot+14% body through battle trophies on top of the buffs/cures their avatars could do.

    So yes PLD is a sucky healer.
    Minor differences. Augments within Cure 4 still don't take you near Cure 5 range, so what does it matter? PLD are no way great healers, but they don't suck too bad and within range of other mages was my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwate View Post
    Minor differences. Augments within Cure 4 still don't take you near Cure 5 range, so what does it matter? PLD are no way great healers, but they don't suck too bad and within range of other mages was my point.
    But that's the point I'm making they aren't "within range of other mages" every job I mentioned has access to cure 4 just like PLD except PLD can only reach a Cure potency of 20% not counting augmented armor. RDM/SCH/BRD/SMN/BLM all can reach 35% and SMN can reach 49%. That puts PLD in the 8th position for healer dunno about you but to me being 8th means it sucks at healing. Not even counting DNC which I'd rank higher than PLD making it 9th...
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Don't forget SCH for stronger Cures with JAs, AoE Buffs/Status removals. Sure a PLD/SCH could do this but not as well as SCH main due to only 2 charges not accounting for better cure gear.

    Or how RDM can handle curing for a longer amount of time due to refresh 2. Also that spiffy cure pot staff trumps light staff PLD can get.

    Or how about a BRD/WHM who is also on the cure pot staff and has access to ballad2/3 as well

    Edit: Forgot how SMN is on cure pot staff has access to a cure pot+14% body through battle trophies on top of the buffs/cures their avatars could do.

    So yes PLD is a sucky healer.
    Are you being sarcastic or serious, i can't tell?

    As far as your comments about Paladins lacking because other jobs get better cure potency weapons...well let's not forget paladins have the best staff skill in the game and spirit taker is an effective tool for regaining mp.
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    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Lol ok Zagen point taken.
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    Dale I don't think you know what a healer job does...

    When you say Cure Potency isn't that important you obviously have no clue how the healer role works, WHMs strive to hit the 50% cap for a reason ~_~
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Dale I don't think you know what a healer job does...

    When you say Cure Potency isn't that important you obviously have no clue how the healer role works, WHMs strive to hit the 50% cap for a reason ~_~
    I play healer all the time Zagen, i assure you I know what it does, and i stand by my point. You are exagerating the need to have a high cure potency stat, and the mere absense of a 10% to 35% gap is not going to make you suck at healing like you claim.
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    Pld sucks at healing because it isn't whm.
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alienmonkey View Post
    Pld sucks at healing because it isn't whm.
    Right. It doesn't matter that they can keep you alive on the fight. All that matters is they aren't white mages. They aren't the best, so they must SUCK. Just like all nukes suck unless they are black mage right? lol...

    I think I"m beginning to recognize a common theme here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Right. It doesn't matter that they can keep you alive on the fight. All that matters is they aren't white mages. They aren't the best, so they must SUCK. Just like all nukes suck unless they are black mage right? lol...

    I think I"m beginning to recognize a common theme here.
    They can keep you alive during fights against extremely weak monsters, in areas where all the characters are rocking god mode / invincible and 4,000 HP, and where every melee has an infinite supply of Elixirs and the Paladin themselves has infinite MP and unnatural bonuses to Fast Cast and/or Cure Potency.

    Yup. Best healer ever. Abyssea is freaking hard, man.
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    They can keep you alive during fights against extremely weak monsters, in areas where all the characters are rocking god mode / invincible and 4,000 HP, and where every melee has an infinite supply of Elixirs and the Paladin themselves has infinite MP and unnatural bonuses to Fast Cast and/or Cure Potency.

    Yup. Best healer ever. Abyssea is freaking hard, man.
    Great Guardian, I wasn't even referring to Abyssea...
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