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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    Atma of the terestial hero

    I think i would be awesome for a smn specific atma that would have something like summoning magic superior (+50 or 100), blood pact ability delay -50% (yes goes to 30seconds) and refresh 5mp/tick.

    Of course it won't be just given, make a quest that the prerequisite would be to have done all 6 of the mini trials. Would be nice if the quest to get this atma gives you a nice smn equip piece like a good ammo item sicne it seems the new one from the update which is geared for pet loving is forgetting smn and pup.
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    job-specific Atma would be nice for most jobs. however, an atma as powerful as you propose is not proportionate to the difficulty for obtaining it compared to other Atma of similar power. Perhaps creating a bad-ass level 90 summoner mob in Voidwatch that has to be beaten, or maybe just that post-CoP mission where you have to beat Carbuncle.

    Also, I wouldn't want to see a Job-specific atma for summoner unless the other 19 jobs were to get something similar in utility to what you propose for their jobs-as a measure of fairness. As it is, Atma tends to be a mix-and-match for most jobs where some, but not all, of the chosen Atmas are in fact useful to the player in question.
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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    atleast give us 1 stat that is for us, brd has one for song cast time, with summoner being so specialized we need to get atleast 1 atma geared for us, time and time agian smn gets screwed out of generic gear since conserve mp or fast cast really has no real use for us.
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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    Wouldn't hold your breath on anything like this....in case you haven't noticed....SMN (and BST) isn't getting a whole lot of love these days.
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    Player Cett's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
    atleast give us 1 stat that is for us, brd has one for song cast time, with summoner being so specialized we need to get atleast 1 atma geared for us, time and time agian smn gets screwed out of generic gear since conserve mp or fast cast really has no real use for us.
    Atma from beating WOTG - Windurst missions is very specific to summoner... has BP delay - . It just doesn't break the cap! ;D We dont' need any specific atma's, as I've learned from these forums, not really any of us agree too much on how to play the job. If SE gave us a "SMN" specific atma, it'd be similar to them telling us how to play the job! :P
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    Woodworking - 100 + Other stuff
    Bravura 95
    Ukonvasara 90
    Hvergelmir 85

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    Start preparing for life outside Abyssea. My guess is that most of you can't live without Minikin yet.
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    Player Sargent's Avatar
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    An atma like that would be un nessesary. Yes, BP delay - would be nice, but you don't need Refresh or the Summoning skill. Just stick with Razed Ruins/Gnarled Horn/AoA for Physical pacts, and Beyond/Ultimate/Baying Moon for Magic Pacts.

    Thats not to say a decent combination of critical hit and mab on an atma would be nice, but I can only ever see SE adding one or two synthetic atmas in the future.
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    SMN99/SAM99/DNC99/PLD99/THF99
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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    i will say atma of the beyond is soooooooo not fair and favor's shiva lol. I'm a big titan fan and use claw which was a real bitch to get a group to get it but worth it. I know overall summoner doesn't need a specific atma but it would just be nice for SE to acknowledge us atleast a couple of times over some updates, i know bst also gets shafted but atleast you can heal all of your pets, without healing salve I & II poor titan has to rely on regen atma's and stoneskin to by some time.

    But i will keep coming up with crazy crack pot idea's intill SE actually give's summoner something useful. Nerfing Mountain buster's power atm cause they screwed up isn't right, give titan a good physical power move please, give all the avatars one.

    also on side note, has anyone actually had good success with blood boon, i'm sitting on +21 and i'm lucky to see it the whole !@#$'n day.
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    Job balancing is hard enough having job specific atma would be treated like gear, and we all know how smn gear gets treated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Start preparing for life outside Abyssea. My guess is that most of you can't live without Minikin yet.
    I never take minikin (or any refresh atma for that matter) unless I am specifically using magical pacts... but usually I am using physical pacts. Then I take 3 DD atma. My -perp gear + refresh gear + refresh from /rdm is more than enough to keep me going (with elemental siphons and converts to fall back on)
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