All accounts upgrading to Square enix accounts

[Rearden]

Eh. I usually don't post in these forums, just browse for lulz but...

If SE's changes in any way incorporated a clause that did not allow you to pay for JP/EU/NA accounts outside of region, or accounts in which you are not the original owner then SE could probably say goodbye to 50% of their monthly subscription fees.

[Alhanelem]

The region issue has been taken care of already. This isn't going to change. You could not link a POL account from one region to a SE account of another. But you can easily create a SE account for whatever region you want. The only catch is you have to use a payment method that is available in that region.

And your figure is super, hugely, massively ridiculously inflated. Europe, the place whiere this situation occured the most due to the game's late release there, does not represent anywhere near 50% of the playerbase. And there are plenty of european players with region-appropriate accounts. As a percentage, the number of people with wrong-region accounts is very low.

[Rearden]

I was incorporating accounts that do not belong to the original owner in that statement, which would easily be around 50%.

A lot of new players have bought accounts/acquired a friends account.

A lot of old players have their friends accounts/bought accounts.

[Alhanelem]

I was incorporating accounts that do not belong to the original owner in that statement, which would easily be around 50%.

No, it would not even be 2%. Even that is probably very generous.

Even if it were as high as you say, which it isn't, everyone that is doing it is violating the terms of use which forbids account sharing.

Just because you or I might know someone who did it, does not mean half of all players are using a borrowed/friends old account, or an account from another region. There are cities in the world with a murder on a daily or even weekly basis, but that doesn't mean that some huge percentage of the population has committed a crime like that.

For every one person who has bought an account or has an account from another region, there are easily close to if not more than 100 people who have not.

You can't throw around terms like "a lot" when you really don't know how many. Only one person out of the few hundred people I've probably had contact with more than once or twice started by buying their account or aquiring a friend's. And in that one case, it's because they got banned.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Player who have accounts that are not originaly theirs are exceptionaly higher then 2% of the player base.

[Kraggy]

You can buy Crysta through ultimatepay.com and they take Paypal. Which is better then using clickandbuy with all the hidden fees and extra charges.

UP is how I bought Crysta for XIV (/lol), just wish SE would deal with Paypal directly.

[Alhanelem]

Player who have accounts that are not originaly theirs are exceptionaly higher then 2% of the player base.

No, they are not exceptionally higher than that. Maybe slightly higher, like 3-4%. This is the full playerbase we're talking about. If you single out the hardest of the hardcore, the percentage is going to be higher. But among all players, the percentage is very low.

[GlobalVariable]

To use milder terms, this is really a silly reason to quit.

All you have to do is contact support and they can help you register your card. Really, how often do you have to change your info? One minor inconvenience every few years?

The problem is I have and 9 of 10 reps REFUSE TO HELP ME claiming they can't do anything and that I MUST get a card that has it to update so I've been using my PS2 to get past it. If this happened to me back when I 1st got the game I'd have taken it back to the store demanding a refund. To use milder terms you don't know what you're talking about when you dismiss this issue. I've had enough of SE support - as I stated before, the 1st time I have to update by phone after this and they refuse to take my card, it is over.

[Rearden]

I'm not singling out anyone.

The hardest of the hardcore (lol) have gained accounts in the ways I stated, and so have many new players. Account sharing is against the TOS, but at the same time, comprises a significant portion of their monthly revenue.

It's not even limited to NA players, as many JP and EU players do the exact same thing.

This game has been around a long time, you can't seriously believe 2% or 3-4% of the people playing comprise the whole of players who are using multiple accounts, bought accounts, or gifted/shared/friends accounts right? 3-4% would be at minimum one servers worth of players that would fall into this category.

(Hint: There's more than one server)

[Xanaduu]

ehhhh.... this is all kinda freaking me out ~,~ im not good w/ computers, even worse with people... and id rather not have to go to my bank asking to get my card 3D secured or w/e cause i have a feeling they wont know wtf im talking about...
then again, can it be done online easy? my bank card is mastercard, there a site to do it? :x halp me out!!