All accounts upgrading to Square enix accounts

[Lushipur]

fyi: i just payed for my jp pol account with webmoney and it didnt let me go beyond july 31.

[GlobalVariable]

I also don't know of any other billing company be it a store, Utility company or whatever that requires you to have your debit/credit cards VbV or Mastercard.

This. And I'm not switching financial institutions just to deal with Square Enix. This isn't something always available on everyone's card. The card I have was perfectly good for years. I'm not going to get a new one for a feature ONE company wants (which I think they want because it helps protect them from chargebacks). This feature does 100% nothing for me because I'm already protected from the things this feature is supposedly for (so are most people - go google what this actually does).

It is 100% nothing but added hassle. So is click and buy or buying an ultimate gamer card to buy crysta to pay that way. I and my money will go play something made by a company that doesn't waste my time jumping through these hoops JUST to pay them.


@ppl who will look to tackle my post on the belief this will result in removing poll, and thus should be defended at all costs: no you'll still have to go through thr viewer to get to XI. Only the account management through pol is being removed.

[Octaviane]

I understand the need for layers of security given how easy it seems for hackers to access almost any system from Government to small business to gaming. I don't have a problem with that so much as I do with the fact that SE is pretty much giving people an ultimatum. Agree to their terms or you won't be able to play. You can argue that ok, no biggie, sign on the dotted line and continue. For some though it will be a huge hassle, and, given the substandard Customer Service that already exists judging from comments made here, elsewhere in the Forums plus my own experiences, I just see "Big Mess Happenings."

[Neika]

I also don't understand why SE likes making it so hard for their customers to pay them. You would think they would want to make it as easy as possible.

[MAXWINTER]

Just returned to ff11 this month to try it out again, but just question about the change.
Can we use paypal and do we need use it for crysta or do i need give click and buy my details?

The way payment works atm for ff11 works well even if they dont want use playonline anymore.
Just hoping this wont cause problems at the change over.

Also with the change will there be options to pay for more than 1 month game time in one go.

[bungiefan]

This could reeeeeeally complicate things for me personally.. I have two other POL accounts linked to my SE ID that friends pay for. We did this to save money getting a satchel back when that was first introduced, and also because we would often hop onto each others characters now and then anyway so it was never a security concern to us, and actually helped centralize what we were already doing.

This is further enforcing their rules. You're not supposed to have more than one person use a POL account or SE Account. You're only supposed to link your own accounts, hence why you can't unlink them. That also keeps you from selling accounts. What you did was completely opposite of the point of the token, securing the account so it couldn't be shared or hacked into. Instead you shared accounts, and linked all of yours together, permanently. If one person gets a token, all the others will be locked out of logging in. If someone moves, and the SE Account is logged in from a different location, it will lock the SE Account unless a token is active on it. So if one of your guys moves to Europe and still uses his account, it will lock all 3 of them because the country of login has changed.

The satchel was incentive to properly secure your account, and you completely borked said security with your actions.

[Zumi]

You can buy Crysta through ultimatepay.com and they take Paypal. Which is better then using clickandbuy with all the hidden fees and extra charges.

[Krisan]

The satchel was incentive to properly secure your account, and you completely borked said security with your actions.

I don't care. The problem remains. I also don't expect them to care either - but the point remains that their entire account system is unnecessarily complex and problematic. Even if this were just my sole account on the line, Click & Buy is an atrocity plain and simple.. and I don't want to deal with Crysta either. Frankly, with or without this little issue with my friends I still have the same exact problem - just to a lesser extent.

Besides, I saved $20 in the process of what I did. I've no regrets. (And before you get pissy with me about this.. You should know, both accounts were given to me at one time - people quit the game. I claimed them, satchel'd them, and then gave them away a little later to friends.)

[Runespider]

Square are trying to be more open and communicative and yet on the important stuff like this, they try to sweep in it without saying much about it and ignore questions.

This is pretty important to a lot of people and it's pretty much being ignored, there was very little notice too.

[Alhanelem]

Looks like I'll be quitting soon.

To use milder terms, this is really a silly reason to quit.

All you have to do is contact support and they can help you register your card. Really, how often do you have to change your info? One minor inconvenience every few years?

Funny thing was I had a card that doesn't support VBV/3D-secure from before they implemented it; the original card expired long ago. The new card has the same number. I've never changed my payment info, and the payment still goes through. Since they really shouldn't be taking it, it makes me wonder why people are having problems in the first place- as far as I'm concerned, they have the most lenient payment system I've ever seen.

Also, from what I've heard, those reloadable prepaid cards you can buy at Wal-mart work with the 3D-secure system. You can just buy one of those, and reload it. Works fine with SE's payment system. This way, you don't even need a real credit card. You do not have to "jump through hoops" even with the current system. There are simple workarounds.

This is pretty important to a lot of people and it's pretty much being ignored, there was very little notice too.

Not enough notice? Are you serious? They're not implementing it for almost A WHOLE MONTH, and won't be absolutely required until another month after that! Read it again:

In order to better safeguard the account security of PlayOnline users and to provide a more streamlined account management experience, we will be transferring all PlayOnline IDs to the Square Enix Account system.

The transfer process will be available in the last half of July, and will give users access to an improved user interface that will allow account management from any web-browser.

Please visit the following URL for details on all of these changes.
http://support.na.square-enix.com/j/kb59527na

Please note that all users will have to log in and agree to the transfer by August 31, 2011, or they will lose access to PlayOnline and FINAL FANTASY XI.

In the last half of July, a walkthrough detailing the transfer process will be posted on the PlayOnline website as well as the FAQ section of the Square Enix Support Center.

This transfer will require you have a Square Enix Account. If you don’t already have a Square Enix Account, we strongly encourage you to create one in advance at https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/register. Customers who already have Square Enix Accounts need only complete the transfer process.

For the proof just in case, with dates emphasized. This is the notice. the implementation is not for a while.