All accounts upgrading to Square enix accounts

[Neika]

As of right now.... The only way you can register your credit card to your SE account is by Click and Buy. I have not found any other way to link your Credit card to your account unless they add something when they make the transfer.



Hmm It says we can use Paypal but I can not find that option in my account settings.... is this Europe and Japan only?

This definately needs to be clarified. If the only way to pay for this game is going to be through Click and Buy (which I hadn't even heard of until this thread) or Crysta (which sounds like a pain in the ass and waste of money since you can't buy in amounts = to the monthly fee) I will no longer be able to pay for my accounts because I will not use payment methods that I'm not comfortable and familiar with.

[Kraggy]

So what's clickandbuy, crysta and that other one anyway? Never heard of them.

Read the link the FAQ gives about Crysta.

ClickandBuy and Ultimate <whatever> are third-party card processors, seems if you don't have a 'secure' card SE are off-loading the risk of taking it to someone who's prepared (for a fee) to do so. C&B are terrible, web boards all over the place are littered with horror stories about them (I used them once for LoTRO, never again), I have no experience of Ultimate <whatever>.

[Kraggy]

This definately needs to be clarified. If the only way to pay for this game is going to be through Click and Buy (which I hadn't even heard of until this thread) or Crysta (which sounds like a pain in the ass and waste of money since you can't buy in amounts = to the monthly fee) I will no longer be able to pay for my accounts because I will not use payment methods that I'm not comfortable and familiar with.

Unless they're treating FFXI differently from FFXIV then there will not be any way to directly use a CC to pay.


I love the "we think this is better for our customers" comment.

For customers like me who set up a recurring CC payment years ago and never had to bother about it again, there's no benefit at all, it's all about you getting out of the risky credit-card business and off-loading it to others, at least you could be honest about this.

[Neika]

I can see them losing alot of customers if there is no direct way to pay using a credit card. As much as my boyfriend and I love FFXI, it's just not worth the risk of using a third party company I have never heard of.

[Gotterdammerung]

please dont do this ; ;

When u added this 3-d secure code 100's of players (including myself) had to jump through hoops just to give u money.
I have missed a total of 9 months of play time just from being locked out of play at various different times by glitches in the 3-D system.

This new system ur proposing sounds just as scary. I finally got my 3-D card working and i had to use a bank i HATE with poor customer service just to get it fixed. Now your going to rock the boat again and make me use something else thats probably going to glitch out.

Also, this just adds yet ANOTHER password i have to remember. I seriously have like 8 sets of passwords just to log into this game. And your telling me you still have to take steps for more security.

All i can say is please don't do this. Please dont do this.

[Evan]

Howdy! We posted a pretty extensive FAQ sticky, which should answer most of the questions circulating the forums regarding the Square Enix Account transfer. Hope this helps!

Can we link a POL US with a Square-enix PAL account this time?

[Alhanelem]

and Ultimate <whatever> are third-party card processors,

Ultimate Game Cards are game cards, not exactly a payment processor. You buy game cards in a store and you can redeem them for Crysta (or whatever else). This allows people to pay WITHOUT a credit card.

What still hasn't been answered (please enlighten us Camate) is if it will still be possible to pay SE directly (with a 3-D Secure card or whatever). SE doesn't seem to understand that a lot of people don't like Clickandbuy because they consider it a disreputable company (debatable) or because some people will be forced to pay additional fees (not debatable, but depends on where you live and other things) to pay for their subscription. II am guessing this is still possible, because of the talk about 3D Secure crap, but SE needs to clarify this.

Crysta works well enough, but because you can't add the exact amount needed for your subscription, you'll always have at least a small balance on your account that you cannot retrieve (because of the 95 cents in the base subscription fee).

Can we link a POL US with a Square-enix PAL account this time?

I can basically guarantee you that won't change.

Also, this just adds yet ANOTHER password i have to remember.

Actually, I'm pretty sure the whole point of this was to eliminate POL IDs and thus their associated password. You can have more than one FFXIV account on the same SE account- It simply asks you to select one to use. You still use the same login and password regardless of which service account you use.

[Crawlerbasher]

Q: What payment methods can be used to purchase Square Enix Crysta?
A: You can purchase Square Enix Crysta using a credit card or debit card via ClickandBuy International Ltd., or PayPal® or Ultimate Game Card® via PlaySpan, Inc.

After checking out my SE account only option I got was for click and buy and to be honest I hate that service.
I'd be more happy with paypal.
But thats not available.

BTW from an EU account if that makes a difference.

[Rabidelly]

If SE changes to these services as payment methods, I will cancel my account.

If they make it possible to buy crysta in REASONABLE amounts (none of this bull about left-over amounts and charging fees for it when you don't use it) I MAY reconsider. Doubtful though.

I hereby call for the harnessing of the "Rage of the NA" to put an end to this before it has a chance to destroy ffxi. I think most of the people I know who play would also cancel their accounts if this is implemented.

[wildsprite]

I really hope SE is gonna make it so we can use a CC directly on the account

some of you keep bringing up FFXIV, the game is still free to play so that argument is pointless, they have no need to implement another payment system on a free game, but SE stands to lose a lot if they don't implement a real payment system for FFXI, I just hope they realize what they have to lose, they could always just transfer their current POL billing system over to the S-E billing system, that would help quite a lot of people and the risk would be too high not to consider it

this quote below tells me it may very well be implemented so that we keep the current payment methods

* Payment Methods
Square Enix Crysta (http://www.square-enix.com/na/account/crysta/), debit cards, and credit cards will be viable payment methods after ID transfer. Debit and credit cards must support personal authentication services (such as 3D Secure) in order to be used.

there are clues in the answer to the first question on this post below as well
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...t-Transfer-FAQ

it sounds to me like they plan on keeping the current payment method but also the change will allow for a few more options, which will be good for some of the people I know since they don't have credit cards