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    Here's an example I know came from here personally. ^^ There's more, but the point is Devs have done pretty great at listening to player feedback.

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    Is it even possible for you to go even 5 minutes without stroking yourself?
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    Not sure how proving the Devs listen has anything to do with my ego, but uhhh.... hmmm... okay.
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    Get back in the mines.
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    This:
    Even if the development team did decide to lean heavily on someones suggestion, if it wasn't exactly what the person suggested full on NERD RAGE would ensue.
    and this:
    This is a terrible idea. Fan art and fiction, sure, but stuff this is too complicated and difficult for players to do.
    Not to mention if all ideas get turned down and then later something is implemented into the game that's somewhat similar to a player's previous suggestion - "OMG SE STOLE MY IDEA BAWWW!" - incoming nerd rage again.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfury View Post
    Huh? Abyssea adjustments, new warp Npcs, higher Fellow Npc levels, Gear augments via Synergy(stage 1), Atma infusement menu additions, better skill up options, new porter moogles storage options, more inventory space (moogle sack), etc, etc. all came from player based suggestions.
    Now compare those things to the amount of completely useless/pointless/worthless/crappy/downright stupid ideas posted by players on this forum. I think you will find that the latter outweighs the former by a lot.

    Let the players stick to posting their ideas here. If it's anything useful for the majority of the playerbase, and not impossible to implement into the game, chances are SE just might listen.
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    Again, the majority of post found here are not focused to specific concepts, even in the respective thread locations like say for instance the WHM thread. Players can post on literally anything regarding WHMs, where these contest would have very focused points of content to suggest for like the possible stats for a new Hand gear for Mages. If you find the example I popped on the OP of the type of form a player would possibly fill out difficult, then yeah, I'd say this contest wouldn't be for you. It's pretty much "Fill in the blank", so I'm almost positive a 5 year old could handle it.

    The OP states that the contest could be targeted around only one to two topics from each category, so it wouldn't have to be the whole list each time. So you would see a contest one year that focuses on a Head piece and a Body piece, a Polearm and a Sword, a Healing and Dark magic scroll, and one or two quest for players to submit suggestions for.

    I've said it previously that this "Suggestion contest" would be regarded very much the same as our suggestions here in that they are just "suggestions" which the Devs can use entirely or partially and change whatever they need to change. Everyone entering the contest would know and agree to this before submitting their suggestions. It would not be an arena for "nerd rage" to ensue lol.
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    It's still easier for them to invent something on their own that works than to wade through the player's suggestions.
    The junk you make alone would waste an eternity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    It's still easier for them to invent something on their own that works than to wade through the player's suggestions.
    This so much.

    And Kingfury - do you really think there won't be nerd rage and whining if SE take a player's suggestion and tweak it to make it work in game, or implement something that's somewhat similar without giving the player recognition for it. Come on, you can't possibly be that naive. Just look at your own posts in your Gyms of Vana'diel thread. And look at the amount of complaining on this forum - people complain about everything!
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    @ Tamoa:

    Well all the nerds that I know can read pretty well, and would probably be okay with the contest rules so long as they could possibly get something unique out of it. The folks that are touched in the head however, yes, they will most likely skim over the contest rules thinking their "suggestions" once submitted are in some way owned by them.

    I've said it twice now that this would be a "Suggestion contest", in which there would be winners, so that aspect would satisfy the competition and recognition side of things. The submissions that are in fact chosen would be highlighted by the Dev team and showcased online somewhere in similar fashion to the Fan Art contest. It wouldn't change the fact that the Devs still have the responsibility to uphold game balance and could still tweak parts of the submission if needed. All that good stuff would be spelled out in the rules before you'd submit anything.

    And you're absolutely right about people complaining about everything.
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