Contests for Implementing Player Suggested Content (Gear, Weapons, Quest, etc.)?

[Kimble]

Seriously? No one has to give a reason why they don't like an idea. If they don't like it, have no interest in using your idea if it WAS added to the game, that's good enough.

Above all else, it's a "video game forum". Expecting everyone to act "professional" (which is basically what you are saying) is just crazy.

[Vagrua]

Seriously? No one has to give a reason why they don't like an idea. If they don't like it, have no interest in using your idea if it WAS added to the game, that's good enough.

Above all else, it's a "video game forum". Expecting everyone to act "professional" (which is basically what you are saying) is just crazy.

It seems to me that people aren't just saying that they dislike his threads, but bashing him for just suggesting his ideas and posting his fan art. If they don't like his ideas or art, then they don't have to post comments to try to demoralize him. Everyone should have a right to express their ideas to an extent and some of the people here are making it seem like that when he posts his ideas, that they aren't welcome at all in these forums.

[kingfury]

Seriously? No one has to give a reason why they don't like an idea. If they don't like it, have no interest in using your idea if it WAS added to the game, that's good enough.

Above all else, it's a "video game forum". Expecting everyone to act "professional" (which is basically what you are saying) is just crazy.

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Nah, it's called being "mature" and "respectful". Who said anything about being professional? I said exactly what I meant, so there's no "basically" to it. Immature folks won't get the concept, but adults shouldn't really argue with it. I'm just highlighting what the forum guidelines say, so if you think it's "crazy" to be respectful to other posters, send your concerns to the Mods of the forums.

And you're right, no one has to give reasons to why they don't like an idea if they don't wish to be a constructive poster. Posting stuff like, "This is a horrible idea" shows you're here to just tear down others vs. voicing your opinion in a "General Discussion" forum. There's no Discussion with that kind of post, it's just a tear down opinion.

[Kimble]

Being Mature and respectful is pretty much what being professional is.

And this is the thing, its not like people are attacking you after one idea. You have given your self a rep now, and its once a week, post an "idea" that usually isnt every good, that goes along with you changing your sig once a week.

Even when people do give you reasons they dont like your idea, either in concept or technical issues behind why it cant be done, you just go "Welll thats for the devs to decide!" or "nah you're wrong, with advances in technology it CAN be done!"

And yeah again, if you want to go on about being mature and respectful, dont go against it when others do it to you. IE: Nazi-like.

[Minsc]

Wow, where to begin...

That's the logic of an immature, and disrespectful person. If you honestly believe that has any respectful worth in terms of validating how you voice your opinions, this conversation is over.

You calling me immature is a form of flaming.

"Many of the above posters" that choose to flame others suggestions have zero ideas posted to even compare what they believe is a "non-stupid" idea so their opinions hold little value when they choose to tear down someone else's with things like, "this is a bad idea" or "this is a stupid idea".

So again, we have to post ideas in order for our opinions to have any value. Right...

If you have no ideas posted and you disagree with an idea, but you give valid reasons in a respectful manner, you're fine.

Ok, so now it only has value if it is what you define as a valid reason, otherwise it's a flame.

It's when you choose to think you opinion and stance validates your right to smash and tear down another's idea that you're in the wrong.

What you think is a flame might be someone's valid response. Not everyone can voice their opinion in the way you demand. I did not realize there were so many rules attached to your posts.

If you're going to voice your distaste for an idea, have enough creativity to propose something that could enhance the concept or offer another alternative. Then you can have a respectful debate that is "Constructive" instead of belittling and demeaning.

So telling someone to respond the way you want them to or don't respond at all is not belittling and demeaning?

What do you think is a "good idea"?! Post it, and have something to compare before you spend 1000 post tearing down others all over the boards. It's just a better defense than the 3rd grader logic of, "I can tell you that you suck because I can". And NO I would NOT agree that anyone has the right to flame any idea on this forum. Show some maturity and respect and go read the forum guidelines again if you need to validate that fact.

Careful, telling people they have "3rd grader logic" could be consider a flame.

I'm doing exactly what a poster that loves this game should be doing, posting suggestions to the friggin' Devs.

I personally never told you to stop posting. In fact, I encouraged more posting.

If you're on these forums, it's fine to voice your opinions and speak freely on the topics posted, but there's no law here that states you must do it while calling someone, (from one of your nice quotes)"Idiot" x4 just to get your point across.

No law saying we can't either. That's the point of "speaking freely".

I'm not posting them for anyone else's approval, especially not the self centered people that have taken it upon themselves to be the "Smash Ideas Forum Police".

"Self centered"? This coming from the guy that some would say is only posting because you are trying to stroke your own ego and display new artwork.

If you don't know how to communicate properly with respect and maturity, go learn to do that before you post. None of the crab-like posters here are deterring me one bit from posting ideas and suggestions to the Devs.

Careful, telling people they are "crab-like" could be consider a flame. Just remember the last time you made a ____-like comparison and how that turned out.

Even this very post is done in a manner that doesn't "smash you" for posting what you posted. It's not hard to respect people. Just try it.

You're right, calling someone immature, having 3rd grader logic and crab-like certainly doesn't smash or flame them.

[kingfury]

@ Minsc:

Dude you're arguing against being mature and respectful. Is there any reason to continue? Trust me, I've dealt with folks that do what you're doing, and NOTHING, no matter how simple the concept is that I put forth will be processed at this point. I'm very much done on the topic. There's nothing to discuss.

It's not how I want or think you should post, check out the forum guidelines man. And WHY in the friggin' world would you care about what's being put in my signature?! It's a friggin profile feature that I have the freedom to change whenever and to whatever I want. That's what you're choosing to point out?!

[Kimble]

No, hes saying you are asking people to be mature and respect when you don't do that yourself.

[kingfury]

Being Mature and respectful is pretty much what being professional is.

And this is the thing, its not like people are attacking you after one idea. You have given your self a rep now, and its once a week, post an "idea" that usually isnt every good, that goes along with you changing your sig once a week.

Even when people do give you reasons they dont like your idea, either in concept or technical issues behind why it cant be done, you just go "Welll thats for the devs to decide!" or "nah you're wrong, with advances in technology it CAN be done!"

And yeah again, if you want to go on about being mature and respectful, dont go against it when others do it to you. IE: Nazi-like.

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Nah, I'm pretty sure professional has a different definition than mature and respectful. You need both traits to achieve professionalism, but they don't mean the same thing. There's no "pretty much" to that fact. You don't need to be professional at all on these forums to voice your opinions, but being mature and respectful is a great practice.

Kimble your 1st post on this thread was targeted towards my signature, not my thread topic. Not even your 2nd or 3rd post was on topic, but rather attacks at me. Why do you care about what's in my signature? Of all things to give a rat about, you care about my signature?! You've given yourself a rep as well, and it's find every thread Kingfury post and say something negative about. I'm at least posting ideas. I'd much rather have a rep that is constructive and doesn't center around tearing people down man. Whether you believe they are good ideas or not, does NOT warrant you posting something to tear down each one.

I've never once used the words "you're wrong" towards someone's opposing opinion of any suggestions I've posted. If I did, find it and post it for me to see please. Defending my opinion is also not smashing someone or tearing them down Kimble.

[Kimble]

Post a good idea and ill give you a positive remark.

Trust me, your rep isnt being constructive.

And I just find it an awfully strange coincidence that every week you change your sig, that you also have a new "idea" to go along with it.

[kingfury]

Post a good idea and ill give you a positive remark.

Trust me, your rep isnt being constructive.

And I just find it an awfully strange coincidence that every week you change your sig, that you also have a new "idea" to go along with it.

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PLEASE take your own advice on the posting of good ideas, or any ideas for that matter. Then I can have a "discussion" with you about one of your thread post.

Kimble if mine isn't constructive, then what is yours? I'm not following you around and trying to find things to toss flame at on these forums. You won't find a page on this entire forum that displays me tearing down other's suggestions to the Devs. Not one. Now tell me what your rep consist of. Is it positive or constructive in any way towards what these threads are designed for?

If I changed it every day, 2 weeks, month, or 2 months, it wouldn't make a lick of difference to someone that's looking for something to poke negativity towards. They'd still find a problem with it. It's a profile feature that I choose to take advantage of Kimble. Why should it matter to you what's in it? If we could change our profile pictures, would you care if I changed that to something new every week as well?