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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    I shouldn't have to bench a bunch of my melee jobs that use to be playable.
    You don't. They were playable before, they're playable now, and they will be more playable with this patch.

    Some weapon skills, such as Shattersoul, are the best in their class but still are not necessary for maximum performance on a job. These jobs are totally 100% playable no matter how much of a perfectionist you are. Then there are jobs like WAR which have several weapons to choose from. You don't need every single merit WS for that one job for it to be fully playable- The merit WS are not used for VW proc so they're not necessary for that, in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You don't. They were playable before, they're playable now, and they will be more playable with this patch.
    If you play alone all the time? Sure.

    But if you wanna participate in Events, Not having Tachi:Shoha or Resolution could mean have fun not coming DRK or SAM. sh*ts a reality.
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    SHHH!!!! PETA's coming, they said something about "as angry as we are about beating live horses we are REALLY pissed people are keeping it up on dead ones!"
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    If you play alone all the time? Sure.

    But if you wanna participate in Events, Not having Tachi:Shoha or Resolution could mean have fun not coming DRK or SAM. sh*ts a reality.
    I "wanna" and do participate in events. I don't have Tachi:Shoha or Resolution. Content is completely beatable without having these things, and if someone won't invite you, then just start one yourself.
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    Ah, another thread to restate my position that limits to what you can merit are pointless and anyone willing to put in the time should be able to maximize their characters however they see fit.

    That is all.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadax View Post
    Ah, another thread to restate my position that limits to what you can merit are pointless and anyone willing to put in the time should be able to maximize their characters however they see fit.

    That is all.
    Limits to anything else in the game are also therefore pointless and anyone should be able to maximize their anything however they want.

    Limits exist for design reasons. The merit system was designed to specialize you're character, not merely boost its stats. They require you to make decisions such that each person's character is unique in some way from another- An otherwise difficult thing to do in a game where you can play every class. I really hate the GIMME EVERYTHING! mentality.

    I want 9999 HP, MP, 999 in all stats all the time, not just with a primeval brew. Make it happen, SE. Unlimited everything {yes please}.

    As it stands, with your suggestion, the only way to spec your character would be to intentionally choose not to do something.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 04-12-2013 at 08:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I "wanna" and do participate in events. I don't have Tachi:Shoha or Resolution. Content is completely beatable without having these things, and if someone won't invite you, then just start one yourself.
    You know, just because you don't experience something doesn't mean its not an issue right?

    I mean, you do know that? And surprisingly, sometimes its not as easy as "Start your own", Some people might not be on the right VW FIght, and its hard to find help for climbs these days.. You'd have to bank on someone being okay to pop it for you. Which also raises complications if you want to use Displacers, like for Botulus Rex.. cause Pick up people... etc :\
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Some people might not be on the right VW FIght,
    The help those some people out? I got through most content by starting my own parties for it. There are plenty of people out there who need a various VW fights if you look for them. I know several people who have not completed a lot of voidwatch because they don't have the most popular jobs and don't have maxed out merits and the best everything. I make it a point to help these people, and usually we do just fine.

    Some elitists can't even believe the fact that you can beat content with less than what they have. At least this game has a decent number of Haves who understand the have-nots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If I can do something and it doesn't bother me then everyone else should be required to do it the same way.
    Dear alhan,
    You are wrong. There is no need to argue. No need to share your experiences. No need to tell us why you think you are right. This horse has been beaten enough. You are just wrong. That is all.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Dear alhan,
    You are wrong. There is no need to argue. No need to share your experiences. No need to tell us why you think you are right. This horse has been beaten enough. You are just wrong. That is all.
    I'm sorry, but you declaring somebody wrong does not make them wrong. I do not recognize you as an authority which can dictate this. Having a minority opinion doesn't make me "wrong" either (nor does it make me "right."). It's called an opinion for a reason.

    You're also missing the whole point- the point of this is to be different, not the same. I don't want everyone to do things the same way I do.

    However, "limits", which everyone seems to hate, need to exist. They facilitate good game design. FFXI is not really a sandbox like a game such as Minecraft is. I understand some people don't like limits, and in an offline game you can use a game genie /action replay / whatever to remove those limits. However, in an online game, those limits need to exist. They give meaning to your decisions and generally imrpvove immersion, gameplay or the overall experience in some way. If everyone is allowed to have all of everything, it essentially removes all customization from the game.

    That being said, I recognize most people want to get as much as they want when they want how they want it. I understand that i don't hold the most popular opinion. That doesn't make it wrong. And with that said, I will exit.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 04-12-2013 at 10:26 AM.

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