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Yes, indeed. I already stated I remembered wrong (after having tested it myself), and that these particular ciphers are not included in this feature since they are not quest-related (in the sense...

"It true, and they also let you re-obtain ciphers that you obtain from quests if you drop them."

Okay, I did remember wrong (I am not too surprised). Apologies for that!

These are not quest-related, so the retrievers do not work for them.

Indeed, it would seem like waiting for the...

That would confirm that indeed, you have not learned it yet (as long as there are no spelling mistakes).

As a sidey-thought, what exactly does the Trust Magic NPC say to you currently when talking...

Joachim can also be obtained using Cruor at times, which may or may not explain having that one.

It may seem silly if you don't see it in the list, but just to be sure that you don't already have...

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If indeed you have dropped it, you should be able to get a new one via the 'Mystic Retriever' target you can find near the Trust Magic NPCs.