Top 5 most useful Relic Weapons in the game as of 2014

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Originally Posted by Safiyyah

For damage, Vajra should beat Mandau the majority of the time.

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Why? Mandau has a better special WS, higher special WS multiplier (40% vs 25%) and higher DPS ( 31.02 vs 29.7) and it builds TP faster due to it's lower delay. Just don't put an Ipetam or Sandung in the offhand slot or it will drag you down. Leisilonu +2 is what you should be using offhand with a Mandau.

Rudra's (stacked)should be beating out Mercy Stroke (stacked) even with Mandau.

From what I've seen on spreadsheets, Vajra beats Mandau if you're able to sa/ta your ws's with Rudra's. If you can't AM3 and you're just spamming weaponskills without SA/TA, Mandau might be better.

Someone who can actually math this stuff out can feel free to correct me.

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Originally Posted by Jeanna

Rudra's (stacked)should be beating out Mercy Stroke (stacked) even with Mandau.

From what I've seen on spreadsheets, Vajra beats Mandau if you're able to sa/ta your ws's with Rudra's. If you can't AM3 and you're just spamming weaponskills without SA/TA, Mandau might be better.

Someone who can actually math this stuff out can feel free to correct me.

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Even if you were able to SATA every time the timer cools off Mandau will have generated more TP in the same time period and Rudra's TP bonus to fTP is significant. And lvl 99 Mandau has a 40% damage multiplier on MS that makes a 100% TP MS equivalent to a 200% TP Rudra's.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

Why? Mandau has a better special WS, higher special WS multiplier (40% vs 25%) and higher DPS ( 31.02 vs 29.7) and it builds TP faster due to it's lower delay. Just don't put an Ipetam or Sandung in the offhand slot or it will drag you down. Leisilonu +2 is what you should be using offhand with a Mandau.

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If you can maintain AM3, Vajra is a decent margin ahead, even comparing unstacked WS versus unstacked WS. If you can maintain AM3 AND stack your WS, it's not that close.