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Just curious on others thoughts, but is this the future of the upcoming quest? A number....not a rich story involving more than just Moogles who don't even have a different name from the one next to them.

The trail of the magians system is fine with me. It wouldn't even bother me if they didn't have another normal quest.

I didn't really read most of the quest npcs text anyway. Do you really want them to go through and write some text for everything you do in the the game? That only a minority of the people will even read.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

The trail of the magians system is fine with me. It wouldn't even bother me if they didn't have another normal quest.

I didn't really read most of the quest npcs text anyway. Do you really want them to go through and write some text for everything you do in the the game? That only a minority of the people will even read.

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Because everyone is like Zumi. I'm sorry, no, I can't stand Magian Trials, not only because they are "go kill this a hundred plus times" but because they're a half-assed way of adding new "quests". If you don't read the dialogue in quests, thats too bad, you miss out on a good portion of what a rpg is.

Sorry to say, the only thing I'm a little peeved that got "MAGIAN'D!" are the Job Emotes, but i don't even entirely mind that. (That and the upcoming NPC level caps, I'm a little upset those wont have story)

I don't need boring Fluff-Text for upgrading a Shamshir+1 to Shamshir+2. The Weapons/Empyrean Armor are fine through Magians, Empyrean Weapons maybe (Empyrean Weapons get their own unique Text as well though?)

I believe SE said they weren't going to make all future "Quests" Magian-trials. But again, Outside of Job Emotes, and Up-comming NPC-Level Caps, none of the magian "trials" would make good quests in any way. Considering the vast large quantity of said trials.

That being said, I Absolutely love the story-line aspects of this game, I however, Don't need 18 lines of Cos-play-like dialogue and some White Knight NPC talking like a Royal Squire of Ye Olde time just to get my Kila+2.

Again, Some things being added to Magians upset me (Job Emotes, NPC Level caps), but as a System its a sound way introduce loads of Weapon paths/upgradeable items that are progressive (Sometimes tedious) Goal to work for.

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Originally Posted by Zyeriis

Because everyone is like Zumi. I'm sorry, no, I can't stand Magian Trials, not only because they are "go kill this a hundred plus times" but because they're a half-assed way of adding new "quests". If you don't read the dialogue in quests, thats too bad, you miss out on a good portion of what a rpg is.

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Im going to agree with Zyeriis here.

It just feels like a throw together of mish-mashed quests given a barcode. They could have at least come up with something more creative. Like give each weapon its own story path. One for elemental weapons, a really in depth one for Empyrean ones and another for the others.

Even just a simple storyline is better than slapping on a number in an assembly line. The point is, that they are filtering out "the heart" of the game. Something which a lot of players miss nowadays.

Remove one of those X's and I'll be more interested.

I wish they weren't so suicidally boring.

The Relic and Mythic upgrades should have been actual quests with a storyline and not just a moogle firing his LAZOR at your weapon.

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(Empyrean Weapons get their own unique Text as well though?)

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There's a unique message when you get your level 80 version; the others are all the same.

I love storyline in games. Without a good storyline, I find myself failing to get immersed. However, the emphasis is on the word good - I would hardly call lack of quests this in most cases. The structure of a typical quest storyline is

I need x item! Here is my reason for wanting x item. Please bring me x item.

There are obviously exceptions to this with the ToAU General quests for instance, but on the whole we're not missing anything.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

The Relic and Mythic upgrades should have been actual quests with a storyline and not just a moogle firing his LAZOR at your weapon.

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i like some "brain off"-grinding once in a while ^^
so i'm fine trials in the way they are.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

There's a unique message when you get your level 80 version; the others are all the same.

I love storyline in games. Without a good storyline, I find myself failing to get immersed. However, the emphasis is on the word good - I would hardly call lack of quests this in most cases. The structure of a typical quest storyline is

I need x item! Here is my reason for wanting x item. Please bring me x item.

There are obviously exceptions to this with the ToAU General quests for instance, but on the whole we're not missing anything.

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Agreed. I personally don't look for or expect story content from Magian trials. It's an awesome, Assault-like system that rewards player with equipment in exchange for effort. No bullshit drop rates - just gear for putting effort into the associated events.

I'm also a little disappointed with the NPCs receiving the Magian treatment, but it makes some sense. I mean, the NPC storyline is finished (as far as I remember), so I don't personally mind if the developers put in their effort elsewhere.

Also, FFXI has massive amounts of story content for those who want it. I think the Magian detractors want storyline content with their Magian trials, and that's just not that system's intended function. There are a bajillion WoTG missions out there, and like Raen metioned, outstanding like questlines like the Skyserpent General quests.

I just don't think the majority of players, including the ones here, will search out story content unless forced to do so on the way to a desired reward.

Sort of agree and sort of disagree. It would be nice of the magian moogles at least seemed to actually notice what sort of item it was you were handing to them. It wouldn't have to be anything elaborate, but at least certain top-tier items should get special treatment.

As it is now, it is pretty bland. I don't really demand loads of well-written quest dialogue for each item, but at least give the moogles a bit of flavour. Right now, it feels a bit standing in a queue to deliver a document to a bureaucrat, having him stamp it without even looking at it, then get out of there.

Changing the current trial dialogue might not be something we can expext to happen, but it would be nice if they kept this in mind for upcoming items.

Maybe they could also put the trial systems on different NPCs around the world. Reuse the basic trial system for various new quests, but let there be a few more npcs with a bit different personalities.

As for trials often being boring, yes, I agree. It's not a flaw with the trial system in itself though (they are no different than regular fetch/kill quests), but the how repetitive some of the tasks are. The main problem is that you end up killing the same monsters in the same area for several hours, before moving to a new area with new mobs and do the same for several hours. I think it would be very good for our sanities to get more variations within the same trial, even if it meant having to relocate more often.