Put Tetra Master In FFXI - Drop PlayOnline

If there ever was an issue within FFXI that should be fixed, it is the long and difficult process to simply log in and play the game. For PC users, the billing system should be handled entirely through the SquareEnix account web site. When opening FFXI, I can understand a login process, but this should take us straight to FFXI. There are no other games. No one plays Tetra Master. We should log straight into our account.

Tetra Master, on the other hand, should be within FFXI. You should be able to walk up to any player in a town and have 'Play TM' as an option. If the other person accepts, the game should appear within FFXI itself. People can trade cards, and certain cards should drop from NMs. NPCs can buy and sell simple cards, and new card shops can be in each town.

one of the reasons I like ffxi > ffxiv

ffxi/pol allows FL offline messaging and such, I say this makes a degrade to the game.

ffxiv tried it and i dont like it.

Playonline is necessary. It is annoying though. Best/simplest solution? Add a "Start FFXI up upon logging in" option to our profiles.

Tetra master is just plain gone, and playonline cannot be dropped.

i like the idea that tetra master should be in ffxi, i always enjoyed to play it once in a while.

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Originally Posted by Alukat

i like the idea that tetra master should be in ffxi, i always enjoyed to play it once in a while.

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yeah why not? like ffviii or ffix.

let uds play vs other people in game! XD

The only card game I'd play in FFXI would be Triple Triad. (can't stand Tetra Master)

I'd like the whole challenge random NPCs in towns feature from FF8.
Main storyline characters would grant some of the stronger cards.

There could be a method of taking Soul Plates and turning them into cards too :)
(Cards would have to be in a separate inventory)
Perhaps Cards could be transformed to and from Soul Plates, so it would become a new way to store soul plates.
Corsairs could potentially use these cards in new Job Abilities.
Puppetmasters could potentially use these cards as AI changers for their automatons. (new equip slot on Automaton)

Lots of potential here.

I like the idea of Corsairs using the cards. I keep forgetting the difference between Tetra Master and Triple Triad. I remember one was basically "This card will always win." and the other one was random where "This card will roll a number between 1 and the number on the card." or something like that. I loved those card games, though, and I think they should be in FFXI. They could even use the existing cards in the game from the Cardigan mobs.

Don't get why ppl love TT so much. It's just a minigame, and it isn't that fancy or elaborate or anything.

Well nobody plays Tetra Master because SE dropped the service and it is no longer supported.

No one plays Tetra Master, but it does not mean that people do not like the idea. They simply want it to be part of the game not a separate game altogether. Then SE could advertise that they offer Tetra Master again as well, and they could even build a town around it for a new expansion.

Playonline would be more acceptable if i could start the game directly from the very first screen after logging in, skipping every other message and confirmation between logging in and selecting my character.

This is a quality of life change... and unfortunately, (based on all observed threads) SE cannot afford things that enhance customer experience, since all their resources are dedicated to making HNM's into "???" and Abyssea v2.

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Originally Posted by Cetra

This is a quality of life change... and unfortunately, (based on all observed threads) SE cannot afford things that enhance customer experience, since all their resources are dedicated to making HNM's into "???" and Abyssea v2.

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Gee, the bitterness in that post sticks out like a sore thumb.

30 mintue battles are not "abyssea v2." They're just BCNMs with abyssea-like properties (and no grinding for pops or time extensions, it looks like). And ??? pop HNMs are a smart thing that should have been done years ago.

You're right that they can't afford to remove playonline- The code for both the game and POL is heavily intertwined. Major changes would need to be made behind the scenes. Remember th at they can only work as hard as their profit margin allows, which means with a smaller population and a smaller team, they can only put in so many man hours.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Don't get why ppl love TT so much. It's just a minigame, and it isn't that fancy or elaborate or anything.

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TT was black gunblade before mission 1, blue gunblade before the end of disc one, and best magic by the end of disc one. I don't know if anyone completly understood the mechanics behind Tetra Master.

TT was so great.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Gee, the bitterness in that post sticks out like a sore thumb.

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I was shooting for subtle, i'll have to work on my approach.

Anyway, my point was more directed at the apparent lack of love for anything that improves quality of life. I'm not leaving references for this.. just take a look over the "Jobs" sections, countless suggestions there with not even a peep from the devs. I'm not sure they even look at that section, lol.

It'd be fun for there to be a card game in FF11. I don't understand why they never put it in. Tetra Master would have been perfect if you could play it in FF11. Failure on SE's part trying to make it basically a stand-alone game. Although, I would have played had it been a free game in addition to my FF11 subscription.

I would have loved to be able to play Triple Triad from within the game. It would be excellent while waiting for people who promised to be on time for the next event, but for some reason, isn't. Again.

I don't wanna have to worry about botters or cheaters! I don't want to have to compete with other players to play!

If i can play VS. myself, that'd be awesome.

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Originally Posted by AyinDygra

The only card game I'd play in FFXI would be Triple Triad. (can't stand Tetra Master)

I'd like the whole challenge random NPCs in towns feature from FF8.
Main storyline characters would grant some of the stronger cards.

There could be a method of taking Soul Plates and turning them into cards too :)
(Cards would have to be in a separate inventory)
Perhaps Cards could be transformed to and from Soul Plates, so it would become a new way to store soul plates.
Corsairs could potentially use these cards in new Job Abilities.
Puppetmasters could potentially use these cards as AI changers for their automatons. (new equip slot on Automaton)

Lots of potential here.

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I agree with you, Triple Traid was really good, and i really just dont care what happens to tetra master, but i think many players liked it, and still like it, if they could implement one or both, many players would have an incentive to keep playing, as others will have an excuse to play inside the game, lol, its a good idea, but hardly viable to be implemented by SE due PS2 limitations, lack of funds to do it, not a priority in DEV agenda, etc etc etc etc etc...

PlayOnline cannot be removed, all the games that used it were tied into it, so you could communicate with friends playing Tetra Master, Front Mission Online, Fantasy Earth, or JongHoLow while in FFXI. It's like asking for Xbox Live to be removed from all the Xbox games that used it to go online. It was a centralized online service created even before Live.

if not removed, i would be happy to see a secondary boot that is stand-alone. This would allow players to load it, enter login information, and load directly into FFXI.

This would leave POL for account changes and e-mail chat services, but give us a second, faster method of loading FF.

I said it earlier in this thread I believe: Just add a toggle option to auto-load final fantasy when logging into playonline (and fix password saving while you're at it).

Amazing Idea.
I thought of this years back when I first started playing. I thought Tetra Master was actually going to be an in game card-game, similar to FFVIII (which was heaps of fun). When I found out it was a separate thing, I knew it would fail.

Bring it back and implement it into the game, would add more variety to our already Abyssea heavy Metropolis.

I am bumping this since I still want something like this added and the new expansion is being released soon. The new expansion could be the springboard for something like this especially since they are adding new crafts anyway.

Zyeriis, the idea of making an option for FFXI to load immediately after inserting your username and password is a great one as well. This would completely solve my annoyances with POL.

Ayindygra, using soul plates and converted them into cards is a good idea. I really like the idea of having cards drop from NMs directly as well, though, because it would give people a reason to return to fight some of them for drops that other people need.

And just to reiterate, it should only be playable in the cities and towns. Otherwise, people could bother you with requests while you are trying to fight NMs.

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Originally Posted by Freebytes

Zyeriis, the idea of making an option for FFXI to load immediately after inserting your username and password is a great one as well. This would completely solve my annoyances with POL.

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This is basically all I want, for POL to act as a login/launcher client for XI. Nothing more, nothing less.

It'll also allow them to strip the POL e-mail stuff, which may or may not give the PS2 some breathing space if they actually take that portion of the code out of the XI client, rather than leaving it dormant. Friends list management could just be either handled via SE Accounts, or add an ingame option to remove someone from your list. ;/

Triple Triad or GTFO. Tetra Master is bogus.

Nice necrobump. But they will never get rid of Playonline even now that they have the SE account system because of consoles.

id of rather of had a card game like magic pokemon type any day over the @#$% %^& play as a monster shiet

I'd also like Tetra Master to return. I remember playing it years and years ago back when FF11 was still young. It's a shame they got rid of it. I loved the funky remix of the FF9 music that played. :D

Triple Triad would also be an acceptable replacement. I'd just quite like to be able to play cards as part of the game again.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Nice necrobump. But they will never get rid of Playonline even now that they have the SE account system because of consoles.

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No reason they can't make POL just go straight to FFXI after logging in though, unless those advertisements for such quality games that you can't find at retail anymore like Infinite Undiscovery, FFXI 2008, and Valkyrie Profile 2 are so important to them.

They could just add an ingame mail system vs a pol main system. Since all pol is, is just launcher with 2 types of mail. And you can't really use ur @pol email well... they could just strip pol to just be a launcher for ps2/360 and put mail ingame. Much like WoW and soon ffxiv. So it should be plausible with the ps2 >.>;;

Also i never saw too much differece between tetra master and triple triad... but why not put both in game? just make card halls where we can play.

I like the idea of pics into game cards. Just as long as they rare/ex or into their own inventory. so ppl can't monopolize them shii outa them.

FFXI and TetraMaster are not the only games for POL :P

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FFXI and TetraMaster are not the only games for POL :P

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FFXI is the only game that anyone has ever actually played for POL. Unless you are considering Final Fantasy X which was not really connected to POL anyway. But, if the option was given to launch directly into FFXI, you could disable that option if you wanted and go through the process of getting there slowly.

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Originally Posted by Freebytes

If there ever was an issue within FFXI that should be fixed, it is the long and difficult process to simply log in and play the game. For PC users, the billing system should be handled entirely through the SquareEnix account web site. When opening FFXI, I can understand a login process, but this should take us straight to FFXI. There are no other games. No one plays Tetra Master. We should log straight into our account.

Tetra Master, on the other hand, should be within FFXI. You should be able to walk up to any player in a town and have 'Play TM' as an option. If the other person accepts, the game should appear within FFXI itself. People can trade cards, and certain cards should drop from NMs. NPCs can buy and sell simple cards, and new card shops can be in each town.

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We dont' need a flawed game that cheats, that's why tetra master failed in the first place.