Samurai and Archery Magian Trials

This may or may not be important to all Samurai, but i feel it necessary to argue for including Samurai on Archery trial weapons. As Samurai have C+ Archery skill, it would be rather beneficial for them to be able to build a Bateleur +2, if only for the STR that the Fire route affords them. Moreover, it would give more reason to use the upgraded Unkai Kote.

Thoughts?

BLU has B- club skill and can't make magian clubs. For that matter, PLD has A- club and can't. And WAR has B+ scythe and great sword, but can't do magian versions of either. There's lots of such cases. I'd say a better point would be that SAM can use the relic bow (Yoichinoyumi). But still, I think magian weapons should be usable by any job that has skill with the weapon. Even if they have to do seperate trials just for jobs with lower skill or something.

At the very least, if a job can natively use the quested Weaponskills (Retribution, Black Halo, etc.) they should be able to use those magian weapons also. A C+ or B- rating or higher could be another nice index as well I guess.

I think there should be more jobs on some of the magian trials paths too.

Would be fun with a good custom crossbow on my thief :p.

I support this suggestion. I would like to see a move away from killing X number of monsters during weather though. That type of grinding has caused numerous people I know to quit the game.

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Originally Posted by Catsby

I support this suggestion. I would like to see a move away from killing X number of monsters during weather though. That type of grinding has caused numerous people I know to quit the game.

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lol.. that's one of the easiest parts of the trials. Just need to go to the right area during the right season and slaughter them them with the bonus--at most you need 10 or 30 kills for most of those stages if you do it with weather up. If you do it in the right season (ie, Summer for Fire weather), you can get through the strtup weather/day trials in one day. A lot less mind-numbing then 800 WS on cockatrice with a weapon, or killing 250 mobs via a pet kill only or with specific status element up or the right elemental damage.

WS kills and pet kills are hands down the most terrible trials. They are mind numbingly boring. It wouldn't be as bad if there was a bit more variety in each trial. What if more trials had multiple different objectives. Like 50 Raging Rush WSkills, 50 Steel Cyclone uses, and then killing two different NMs. Instead of DERP 300 STEEL CYCLONE KILLS ON PLANTOIDS.

At least this will give you a change in scenery after not too long, instead of staring at the same area, killing the same mob for an stupidly long time.

I fully support this idea. Partly because I'd love to see THF get some crossbow trials too, but also because I recently started leveling my SAM. I understand limiting some weapons to certain jobs in the cases of club and staff purely because even though some jobs can use them, few players usually do. However, a great deal of SAMs use archery as well as a large number of THFs use marksmanship. As far as that goes, I would get NIN access to trial guns while we're at it. I loved using a gun when I was leveling my NIN up.

If sam gets to be on the bow trials, rng should get axe/dagger trials. Cor should be on dagger and sword trials as well.

COR can only really use rapier type swords, there is non on the magian weapons, dagger I agree with but I can see the MAB daggers making them rather powerful.

I'd also like to see RDM on the Dagger trials seeing as they have the same skill on both sword and dagger.

I think SE was just being lazing in leavign out things that should have been there. Such as a bow for SAM. Everyone should have more then one trial set.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

I think SE was just being lazing in leavign out things that should have been there. Such as a bow for SAM. Everyone should have more then one trial set.

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The fact that nearly every weapon is pigeonholed into the same routine and result is almost proof.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

COR can only really use rapier type swords, there is non on the magian weapons, dagger I agree with but I can see the MAB daggers making them rather powerful.

I'd also like to see RDM on the Dagger trials seeing as they have the same skill on both sword and dagger.

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The whole point of trial of the magians is to become "rather powerful." That's why you do the suicidally boring and agonizing tedious garbage they put you through.