Wing of the Goddess mission completion reward

Wing of the goddess missions need a better reward for finishing them. All the work and effort you put into it and all you basicly get is an earring most people do not want as they think abyssea stuff give a way better reward anyway. I just feel for all the time and effort you put into doing the missions the reward should be a lot better. Take rise of zilart, cop, and toau there rewards were well worth obtain and doing most the missions for when the game was level caped 75. After all the time and effort could we not see like some unlockable zone or some more insentive to actualy complete the missions.

Sure you could say nice rewards like if you finish your nation part you wont loose a campaign metal but no one will do campaign no more. The ring you get for completing the nation part no one seems to feel is worth the effort to get them when they can go threw abyssea and get better stuff. Atmas you get for completing wing of wing of the goddess no one feels are worth it ether. For an expansion that took them 3 year to complete i expect a lot more out of it then we got.

I agree, that earring isn't exactly super good for level 90. The CoP reward rings got it right, but both ToAU and WotG lacks proper reward items.

Maybe if you could choose two augments without being restricted to two different augment groups, it'd be good. Counter + regain, or regain+refresh, I could have been ok with that. The stuff in the first group is however pretty poor, in my opinion. 4 acc, racc, attack or rattack isn't exactly incredible for level 90.

I also don't see why the refresh/regain can't be active all the time. Actually, if they were always active, that might be just the buff the earring needed.

While I agree it's a lacking reward for the storyline, doing story missions isn't really about the reward, but going through the story. FFXI is plenty enthralling w/o doing any storyline, but if you want a story, that's what missions are for. :)
CoP was so difficult (originally) that the rewards needed to be equally epic, to give incentive when your spirits were down.
The end reward isn't incentive others redo the missions with you, so that side isn't affected.

Doesn't matter if CoP was originally more difficult. New gear should be better, not worse than earlier gear. Especially when they're competing for the same equipment slots. I'm thinking about the ToAU rewards now, which are pretty bad outside of assault/nyzul. CoP rings are however very good anywhere in the game.

ToAU rings would have been just right if the assault effects were always active, and something else was added during assault, considering they are usable at level 50. Maybe if it is a bit strong for lv50, make their stats increase as you leveled up to 75, like CoP rings.

Maybe it is just the mage in me talking, but I love my latent Refresh earring and can't wait to get one for my second character. This is an effect that you can only get on one other earring, and that earring only works in Garrison.

Yes, people are going to say that with Atmas that a one refresh a tick effect is worthless in Abyssea, but if you look at the roadmap for the next year Abyssea is not going to be the center of the universe. There will be many non-abyssea events where mages and the people they cure are going to be very grateful for every shred of MP that the mages can get.

So, if you are looking at one MP a tick when you are getting 15-20 from atmas it will seem lackluster, but when you are getting 5 MP a tick from gear alone and nothing else in any place that isn't Abyssea, that is some mighty hot stuff.

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Originally Posted by Laciante

While I agree it's a lacking reward for the storyline, doing story missions isn't really about the reward, but going through the story. FFXI is plenty enthralling w/o doing any storyline, but if you want a story, that's what missions are for. :)
CoP was so difficult (originally) that the rewards needed to be equally epic, to give incentive when your spirits were down.
The end reward isn't incentive others redo the missions with you, so that side isn't affected.

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While i agree for the story but i can not get anyone to do these missions. Seems more people care about the reward then the mission so when the reward i lacking they do not even try to do the missions. Barely anyone will go passed unlocking walk of echoes in the mission because when i constantly ask people even shout people laugh they just will not do wing of the goddess missions because the rewards not worth it. When you can not even get a shout group together thats just say in my opinion pretty bad.

I was lucky enough to get the missions done as they came out, but I have to agree that while I personally don't care much about the reward, since I do missions for the story, a LOT of people only care about the rewards and just do not care one bit about the story (which makes me sad, but that's a whole other rant). This causes a problem for those of us who do care about the story, because these people who only care about rewards aren't doing the missions, and thus, can't help us with them.

I was pretty happy with my Magic. Atk. Bonus+4 Latent effect: Refresh+1 Moonshade Earring at first. It certainly beat Morion +1 for my BLM, since I'll likely never get a Novio. It would've been nice for my BLU too, if not for the fact that it doesn't work when engaged. Now that I have a Hecate's Earring, though, I only really use it on my WHM. :(

how many earrings give you refresh? i can't think of any other ones (outside garrison). how many earrings give you regain? i can't think of any other ones.

so honestly, the WotG reward rocks!

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Originally Posted by Kingofgeeks

how many earrings give you refresh? i can't think of any other ones (outside garrison). how many earrings give you regain? i can't think of any other ones.

so honestly, the WotG reward rocks!

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If it rock then how come more people do not try for it? Why do so many people say it suck and even when they get it they never use it anyway because abyssea give way better stuff people rather use anyway.

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Originally Posted by Sasukeuchiha

If it rock then how come more people do not try for it? Why do so many people say it suck and even when they get it they never use it anyway because abyssea give way better stuff people rather use anyway.

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More people do not go for it because they are obsessed with Abyssea, simple as that. I, for one, do not judge a piece just by its usefulness for just one set of areas, no matter how obsessed with it people are at the moment.

I personaly like the mp and extra refresh +1 for bst whm and the mp .... very usefull as a refresh item when i am not meleeing and am bst/whm
But i doagree compared to CoP u dont get as good as a rajas or simiar but they did add extra where you could go do ethreal earing or similar also ...... Maybe add something extra now for people who have gotten there earings and did all the 3 story quests for all 3 cities. Similar like Storms of fate, all way up to apoc. nigh was a add on to people done with both CoP and sky..... Cant you do something similar in Wotg for someone who completes it and gets there earring and goes and does the other 2 cities story lines also.

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Originally Posted by Kingofgeeks

More people do not go for it because they are obsessed with Abyssea, simple as that. I, for one, do not judge a piece just by its usefulness for just one set of areas, no matter how obsessed with it people are at the moment.

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Better yet its suck and to most people not worth going for. Wing of the goddess needs a better reward more worth going after.

Atma of a Future Fabulous is a pretty good atma to have for some things.

If I could get the refresh while meleeing as well, I would probably get it.

Yeah agree that CoP rings are really the best reward and are still useful, even @ lvl 90. ToAU are only useful doing assault, but with some of the new gear out, they are easily outdone, even in assault. My Static on WotG are on the last set of actual missions, but agree having seen the earring available it's kind of meh.

I'm working on WotG missions right now. I'm definitely not doing it for the earring, it's mostly garbage. It has a grand total of 2 worthwhile augments, of which you can only have one, and they're both crippled by being latent effects. Refresh less than regain, but I have a much smaller need for refresh, having only 2 mage jobs that I use very rarely. Frankly, if I get to the end, and remember to stop soon enough, I may not get the thing at all. If I do accidentally pick it up, it may end up tossed like the ToAU negative inventory trio of trash.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

If I could get the refresh while meleeing as well, I would probably get it.

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This. Though, personally, I'm a sucker for gimmicky effects, so I'll get the 3% Quick Magic myself. ^^;

If the reward was more worth it like other missions it would be easier to get them. People do not even thing the atmas worth it. Only argument iv heard that makes the earring even worth it is for mage witch in turn it still sucks. With other mission reward you could pick a reward that was really decent for all types of jobs not just 1 type. All the work you have to do the least they could do is give you an exclusive zone in the future for future something along the lines like how you did rise of zilart for sky and cop for sea. Even tho you didn't have to finish the mission there was still more insentive back at 75 to get the mission done then there is for wing of the goddess.

WoTG is one of the major story lines in the game, completing it, I feel, should be somewhat ground breaking, both in terms of lore/story (that part was done quite well, if you ask me) and a reward that you are left with. CoP rings (and stuff like Loquacious/Brutal/) were outstanding and unlike anything you could craft or get from camping some HNM 24/7. You basically noticed when you got to use them and made sure you had them in your inventory (whether a mage or meele play style you preferred).
Well, maybe it wouldn't bug me that much if it wasn't for all the limitations attached to it. Latent effects? For the love of god, why? So you don't have to bring opo-opo and sleeping potions before Kirin zerg or somethig? Or to keep your hMP earring relevant and make you rest for MP more? Another slap in the face are these: [Occ. maximizes Magic Accuracy +3% [Occ. quickens spellcasting +3%] [Occ. inc. resist to all stat. ailments +5]. Who in their right mind would keep around a piece of equipment for a 3% chance to instantly cast a spell? Or 3% chance to land a spell on something? There's already a 5% chance to land a spell on anything unless it's compeletly immune, I think. At least try and beat that... When I use Atma of Apocalypse I notice it's effects enough (Quick magic 10% etc) for it to be seen as an useful thing for any job. Random free Utsusemi cast? Random AM quickcast and shiny yellow !! poppping up? Reraise and back to fight when something manages to 1-shot you or ambush you from the bushes? Hell yes. Put things like that on major storyline reward and not stats that are beaten already by things you can get from AH/Bazaar/random NM (Moldavite/Novio/Hecate/Ethereal/Aesir Ear/Clearview earring).
Make things bit more meaningful, not 'bleh, whatever'.

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Originally Posted by Zirael

Who in their right mind would keep around a piece of equipment for a 3% chance to instantly cast a spell?

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Gee, thanks. >_>

To be perfectly honest, for something that you can use outside of Abyssea, the Moonshade Earring is pretty amazing. We are all already aware of how broken Atmas are, particularly ones like Atma of the Apocalypse, but any chance of quickening for any spell I cast is going to win that ear slot with the possible exception of nukes.

(Also, Ethereal Earring is a storyline reward, not an "AH/Bazaar/random NM" item as you state; Aesir Ear Pendant is somewhat debatable, as well.)

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Originally Posted by Sasukeuchiha

Wing of the goddess missions need a better reward for finishing them. All the work and effort you put into it and all you basicly get is an earring most people do not want as they think abyssea stuff give a way better reward anyway. I just feel for all the time and effort you put into doing the missions the reward should be a lot better. Take rise of zilart, cop, and toau there rewards were well worth obtain and doing most the missions for when the game was level caped 75. After all the time and effort could we not see like some unlockable zone or some more insentive to actualy complete the missions.

Sure you could say nice rewards like if you finish your nation part you wont loose a campaign metal but no one will do campaign no more. The ring you get for completing the nation part no one seems to feel is worth the effort to get them when they can go threw abyssea and get better stuff. Atmas you get for completing wing of wing of the goddess no one feels are worth it ether. For an expansion that took them 3 year to complete i expect a lot more out of it then we got.

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Yes, the earring is a horendeous waste of time and dose not compair even to most level 30 ones.