February 2021 FINAL FANTASY XI Digest

The latest FINAL FANTASY XI Digest is now available! The digest covers key features from the most recent version update. Check out the video, try the version update, and leave a feedback based on your experience of playing the new content.

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Amazing update.

The best part about this content (Odyssey) is it can't be Mercenary exploited, making players team up again. Please think of this for any future Content!

Absolutely nothing has been done (yet again) regarding the severe ffxi server data transfer delay experienced by abroad players, that makes Odyssey battle content Sheol: Gaol in particular, utterly unplayable. Why is this issue not even mentioned on current known issues?! Have you read the various bug reports and reported issues from western playerbase at all?!

And to emphasize the frustrating nature of this issue from player perspective regarding Sheol: Gaol...

JUST BECAUSE THE CONTENT WORKS AS INTENDED ON YOUR LOCAL COMPUTER THAT HAS ZERO LATENCY, DOES NOT MEAN IT WORKS AS INTENDED FOR ABROAD PLAYERS THAT HAVE SERVER ACCESS LATENCY TO CONSIDER. THERE IS IMMENSE DELAY ON EVERY ACTION THAT REQUIRES SERVER SIDE COMPUTING. PACKETS RECEIVED FROM SERVER ARE THROTTLED TO CONSTANT ~R3000 AND OVER, WHILE PACKETS SENT REMAIN AT STABLE S150-200 WHOLE RUN. ALL THIS EVEN WHILE IDLE AND DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITHIN GAOL. ALL ACTIONS HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS CONSTANT DATA STREAM SENT FROM SERVER TO FINISH LOADING BEFORE THEY EXECUTE. WHICH IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.

Please rebuild the content to require less data transfer with ffxi server. Get rid of the unnecessary moogle inventory access within gaol if need be. Us players can manage without that easily if it makes the content finally playable.

As for positive feedback... the new items are really nice stat wise!

Maybe my early assessment is off or I'm missing something but I'm not farming segments for an hour to have a shot at a single nm that needs to be killed 30+ times. I like the grindiness of this game in general and many ideas behind the setup of the new content is intriguing... but farming 2-3 hrs for 3 moglo II ki's is too much.

The Update Gear is really interesting. It looks like alot of thought and care was put into it. Thank you!

However, the biggest problem with Odyssey is the Latency in Sheol Gaol. For everyone I play with the Receiving amount is always 2.4k ~3k in sheol Gaol. Go to other zones and there is not a problem, but in that zone it is REALLY bad. It makes the fights frustrating instead of fun. Its VERY difficult to make a skillchain or a magic burst because you cannot time it right from the latency. Its often hard to tell what is even happening in the fight. I think that I missed pressing the button because I dont' see a weaponskill actually happen for 5~10s AFTER I pushed my macro button. The latency is REALLY horrible.

I also suggest making it so moglophone can be stored up to 3x on the moogle, JUST like Omen.

Also, for odyssey, having 3x fights in a row and job lockouts is interesting. But there is no motivation to do it. Players will simply buy 1 moglophone II, kill 1 boss, and leave. If you can get augment reward bonus buy doing 3x fights there would be some motivation.

However, I still probably won't do it, because I cannot access my inventory to change gear for jobs. When I change jobs, I need to spend 10 minutes to swap gear from storage, mog safe, safe2, and locker to get the gear I need and put away what I don't need.

This makes swapping jobs in between battles very tedious. I would need more wardrobe space to play sheol gaol as intended.

I think that the gear released this month is fun and interesting as well as the way it was implemented albiet laggy but that's tolerable. I however do wonder why it was that drg was not on the heavy armor piece?

Considering that this is what drg lacks as a job. A good meva stp piece. However it is on the thf dnc blu bst piece. Which I am guessing its due to the pet stats. But the wyvern doesn't need as inflated stats as the bst. Where the master can really benefit from resisting an amnesia or paralyze, or a nuke aga from something like mt4 iroha. Unlike bst that can equip malignance in such fights and ignore most magic sources. Drg cannot.

Drg is now the only dd in the game to not have access to a good meva stp option at this time. And I personally believe that something should be changed or adjusted to help drg with this.

I'd like to enjoy this Odyssey content but cannot because of the lag. Please don't dismiss it as a user problem. There are too many complaints to make it a coincidence.

I would like to echo the sentiments of NA and EU community about the lag detracting from our experience in Odyssey. The content is not enjoyable in its current state.

The lag is terrible. It's not possible for some of us to even attempt higher Vengeance+ difficulties until this is fixed, because players do not see any actions for several seconds after it has been performed on the server side. It would be a waste of segments, which already is hard to accumulate daily. This makes it near impossible for mages to support their team, and tanks have a hard time keeping the monster's attention due to not seeing hate-reset moves until it is too late. This needs to be of the highest priority if you expect people to support Odyssey for the year. It isn't nearly in Sheol ABC, but it's significantly worse than Dynamis-Divergence. Please address this as soon as possible.

The lag is absolutely horrible in Sheol: Gaol and therefore unplayable. I know a lot of people that experience the same.
Please make an effort to fix this issue or it will likely make a lot of new and veteran players quit the game if this is the quality of new content we can expect.

If it wasn't for the extreme lag, the idea of Sheol: Gaol is a very interesting one. A bonus for doing 3 NM without exiting Sheol: Gaol should be applied though.

A lot of people bring up their issues with the lag...add me to that list.

Lag issues for me as well!

Lag here it Scotland as well mate.

Thanks SE for I-level Sic/Ready-5 pants and Pet Level+1 feet for Beastmaster. This and new-pets should have come out with the release of SoA, but I digress. Better late than never!

Added gear and whole idea behind Odyssey is spot on, but lag in Gaol is enormous. My inventory doesn't even load for 3min+ in lobby. Party members "teleporting" from place to place, instead of moving. Can't see WS animations or WS damage in chat. There is 5-8 seconds(!!!) delay between keyboard click and reaction. It's totally unplayable.

Extreme lag from Sweden aswell. Totally unplayable.

Same here, lag removing all the fun. Unplayable content.

I will just add myself to the list. Lag is simply unbearable. It's a shame because the way Sheol: Gaol works is refreshing and interesting, but I currently just can't enjoy it since I feel perfectly useless while in there.

Horrible lag for me too, sucks!

Was looking forward to some new content! But it's not fun when you can't do it!

Thank you SE for making Odyssey. It does indeed have potential and brings something challenging for players to team up and work together.

Having said that, I think there are 3 main priorities that should be taken into consideration, should you want players to continue doing Odyssey and they are:

1) Sheol: Gaol has an obnoxious lag to the extent of 10-20 secs delay; for that reason, it is hard to clear it especially if you want to do +15 vengeance - Honestly, this should be the #1 priority to fix. (Playing from the Middle East with stable 700Mbps)
2) Pretty sure some players can't log everyday due to work or real-life commitments. Why can't we store 3 KIs like Omen? is it an issue because you think players will farm the content quickly? if so, farming segments is super time consuming and takes a great deal of efforts, especially if you want to max augment those items..
3) I think its better to reduce the amount of segments for KI, 3k is too much honestly, ~2k should be very fair.

Lastly, thank you.. really looking forward to Odyssey as it seems to be super fun. But please fix these bugs ; ; or just try to play it from a western server and test it yourself.

Gaol is unplayable content due to lag. For a company like SE to ignore this and think it's ok to leave it like this is unbelievable

Concept is great, but its unplayable with current lag. PLEASE fix it and dont ignore EU/NA players!

Great update, but I can't play because the lag is huge in Gaol. Im having same issues as other people reporting in this thread. Please prioritize this!

Hello!

I have a slightly off topic request, but would it be possible to add Mog Segments as an option for Copper Voucher currency exchanges?
That would be so wonderful and help newer players that are returning/trying FFXI for the first time get a jump start on the new Odyssey content via Deed rewards.

This issue also needs to be addressed in Dynamis as well as Sheol and Gaol. Sometimes it even occurs in Omen, though that is at least more uncommon.

Please put resources into reproducing and verifying the unacceptable lag that has blighted new content ever since Dyna-D (specifically when you added the rank meters for R15-25 gear).

This seems to be an SE server side issue, whether it's processing power, network throttling or just too much trying to happen at once.

Dyna-D lag: 1-2s at least on every run
Odyssea A/B/C lag: 1-2s at least on every run, can be worse
Odyssey Gaol lag: 1-2s lag for some characters, 6s or worse for many others

In Gaol I can reproduce constantly a 1-2s lag for 1 of my paid accounts, whereas I get constant 6s lag on my other account. On the very same computer (full logout and log back in as other char). This is not a client side issue.

My suspicion is something in the code for keeping track of Rank item progress is the issue in Dynamis D (since that's exactly when the issue started for me). For Odyssey and Gaol I have no idea what it is you're doing that's so different from the rest of the game that causes constant network response latency, meaning some actions are not displayed on the client or shown in the log at all.

Please investigate as a top priority. I would be happy to help in any way I can.

So the new content and gear is very interesting. I see the feedback on playstyle/gear design for BST has been put into action. Much appreciated.

I really do look forward to playing it but the following two issues really need higher prioritization than recently mentioned in the Q&A:

Gear inventory / lag:
Given that gearing multiple jobs is essential to Odyssey gameplay, we really need to have job-specific inventories (like 40 slots each) that only load when playing that job . This would allow people to properly gear job (or continue gearing more once they are not paralyzed by inventory restrictions) and reduce full inventory load between each zone. And hopefully help address lag issues overall. Given I know nothing of the technical side of this game, I appreciate that it might be a difficult feat to program but I think its essential to the survival of the game.

Gaol access:
3000 segments is too much. I'm really hoping this is something you will adjust sooner than later. My well-geared character can only farm 1000-1500 per 30 min... so I require 3hrs of farming for one 3-boss run. This is too much time sink. In omen, you get the same effect on piecing out content by just having access gated over time. Please reduce the requirement, introduce new ways to gain segments, or do something to make it palatable to normal players who can't dedicate so much time to the grind. ***Farming 3 hours over 6 earth days to participate in 45 min of new content suuuuuuuucks.***

I trust the lag issues that are drawing so many complaints will be resolved asap and are just attributed to growing pains. To me, the above two issues are the next most important, ahead of job rebalancing. Maybe you intentionally put the price of entry high so you could address the lag issues while giving everyone a bit of access? That would make sense. Good luck smoothing it out, always thankful that this game is still being supported. Nothing else out there like it.

Please correct the latency/lag issues in Odyssey.

Unable to play Odyssey due to the lag/communication problems with server.

Please look into the matter about lag/latency I'm experiencing 5-10seconds delays on action taken. Load icon never stops loading while in Gaol.
I would like to do this content, but with the high latency I am unable to.

I invited me here to say how nice is the nee content, thx SE ;) But please repair the content with the huge lag, its relly not playable. I hope (^^*)

Already posted a bug report regarding this issue, but our linkshell party had another strange thing happen on Sheol: Gaol content earlier.

Our original intent was to do some further testing, how clicking the Veridical Conflux present within Sheol: Gaol seemed to suppress whatever thing is causing the severe server side lag present within this zone for many players.

Clicking this Veridical Conflux seems to indeed rapidly load all player inventories and suppress the packets received from ffxi server, as can be observer in-game from the send/receive values on upper right corner. As long as player stays on this Conflux menu, no server side lag is detected and content behaves as intended... Leaving this menu, however, once again causes server to spam client with massive amounts of data. As can be observer from the in-game send/receive values.

Now here is where the strange thing happened. After warping to boss area from lobby. All party members having clicked the Veridical Conflux. All of us were somehow able to access trust magic that we had not unlocked in-game yet. Personally i had access to Ygnas trust! among various others that i had yet to unlock. From which i can only surmise that our personal trust magic lists got sent into some weird zone specific global trust list. And all of us gained access to this list upon clicking the Veridical Conflux.

Upon leaving Gaol our trust magic lists were back to normal.

Or is this some intended feature for Gaol that i have missed? It would certainly be handy to have access to trust magic of whole party, but this feels like a proper unintended bug...

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Originally Posted by BST

Amazing update.

The best part about this content (Odyssey) is it can't be Mercenary exploited, making players team up again. Please think of this for any future Content!

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yes it can

No idea where that even came from in the first place, just because of the job change thing I guess? Most people these days have 3+ characters, each with fully capped support jobs on their mules. Not being able to merc content is a dream, SE would have to nerf multi-boxing in some form.

Bumpin the thread for better exposure.

Can we have some reaction from community representatives / forum moderators, that they are actively following these threads and aware of the issues? Ideally within the next 24 hours.

1. SE seem to have added a lot more network traffic when Dyna-D added RP upgrades to gear/weapons. Whatever system is being used to track RP is likely the reason we now get high latency on actions and movement in Dyna-D.

2. Odyssey A, B, & C, seem to have the same general latency issues as Dyna-D

3. Odyssey Gaol, has pushed this extra network traffic to the point that lag is reaching 6s for actions for some players. Packets are likely getting dropped altogether between the server and client as well.

SE please investigate this and give us an update to say that you are. I'm willing to wait until the end March before I quit the game, but if nothing is said before that my patience will be exhausted.

Since the community reps were a no-show within given time frame, and made it clear they're not even following these forums much... I went ahead and dropped a formal Square Enix FFXI support center ticket regarding this issue and requested proper investigation. Let's see if that sparks any action...

Why is it ok that we are constantly ignored yet we pay a subscription price ? XIV players are not ignored and constantly have NA reps responding. I don't see the reason.

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Originally Posted by Immortal

Why is it ok that we are constantly ignored yet we pay a subscription price ? XIV players are not ignored and constantly have NA reps responding. I don't see the reason.

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Because you refuse to punish the company for it's sleights. Openly acknowledge they're doing wrong, but here you are with an active character, paying.