There needs to be a consolidation of servers. Most servers aside from Asura have around 300 players, why hasn't a server merge happened yet? The discount campaign doesn't cut it, we shouldn't be forced to pay to get off of dead servers. The only reason i can think of why this hasn't happened is cause you guys want the money, I feel like this is unacceptable greed, I don't mean make server transfers free but now that i mention it why not, but you guys should at least merge the dead servers together and get rid of some of them is there really a need a this point for all of them? Seem like the right thing to do even if it mean you wont make as much money but really it shouldn't matter because its something thats been needed for almost 10 years now quit milking the turnip.
Server merge/ Vanadiel Census 2020
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11-25-2020, 07:50 PMJdoveServer merge/ Vanadiel Census 2020
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11-26-2020, 02:03 PMTharly
Plenty of us are perfectly happy on our "dead" servers and have no desire to be on a server like asura.
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11-26-2020, 02:26 PMCatmato
Disagree. Please don't merge Leviathan with other servers. We don't want the overcrowding and mercs. Asurans got themselves into this mess, they can deal with it.
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11-27-2020, 10:51 AMJdove
I disagree and stand by my 1st post.
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11-27-2020, 10:55 AMJdove
If anything the reason people go to Asura in the 1st place is because the other servers are so dead, but this isnt about Asura.
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11-27-2020, 12:00 PMZehira
Hi,
I am not kind of a person that is supporting this decision. I am just here to tell you Japanese players have had discussed about merging servers before. It seems the majority of them disagreed and that was in 2015. One biggest reason is the risk of renaming their characters. There may be various opinions. One Japanese player in Fenrir requested it to happen because there were about 474 online players on Nov 07, 2019 at 8:45 am and there were impossible to find people to play with. Please take your time.
サーバー統合の是非を話し合うスレ
My simple opinion about dealing with Asura and dead servers is not an easy task for the dev team. They have to fix Asura that dead servers don't need. They have to fix dead servers that Asurans don't need. They have made FFXI more solo friendly to propel Asura manipulating dead servers greatly. The majority of Asura don't care unless they start hearing about this. -
11-27-2020, 12:01 PMTharly
There is zero need. Perhaps you need to realize some people actually prefer servers with fewer people competing for resources so we can actually do things we want, when we want and not have to worry that there aren't enough instances or somebody else wants to do the same thing at the same time. What you call dead, I call having the maximum number of activities available whenever I want. Wanna solo ambu? No problem. Solo omen? Yup, no problem here either. Einherjar? Whenever I want. Cp? Plenty of places with little competition. With more people around these things go away.
So no, there is no need and probably even less desire from a majority of players on "dead" servers for a merge. -
11-27-2020, 10:05 PMSirmarkiTo be honest, I think we have got to a stage now where most people are happy with where they are. So much time has past with the current format that general population made up their mind a long time agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jdove
whether or not to stay on the server they like because it is quiet (because that is what they prefer) or to a more populated server (Asura) because they prefer to be among greater numbers. -
11-27-2020, 10:41 PMJdove
People who run enough accounts at the same time love the dead servers I'm sure, but people who don't shout for hours just to find people to fill a party. There is a lack of crafters and you should be able to play on any server on a single account with out needing to have alts on seperate accounts to get by.
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11-28-2020, 08:28 AMAlhanelemIt's honestly too late for a merge. Too many people have moved to asura and every new player is being told by someone to go to Asura. Some people would have to be transferred off Asura to balance the population even with a merge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdove
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11-28-2020, 08:34 AMAlhanelemWhile some people do multibox, there isn't that much where it's truly necessary. And the "dead" servers have a tighter community that helps each other out more which largely makes up for a smaller player poolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jdove
There's also minimal RMT or spam /yells.
Doesn't mean we wouldn't mind more players, of course. But there's two main reasons why most ppl who haven't already moved aren't keen on moving:
-They still have friends on their server that they've had for a long time
-They feel that they shouldn't have to pay for a server transfer to address something that SE should have addressed with a merge years ago when it would have made more sense. As noted in my previous post, I think it's too late for a merge to really change anything. The community has dogpiled Asura to the point of overpopulation and it would take removing some players from asura to have balanced server populations even with a merge. -
11-28-2020, 12:55 PMLockhart
I really think the population is on a decline and I don't feel like Asura is overpopulated currently. We have about 3100 people online right now on a peak time of the weekend, but I'm not waiting for Einherjar, Ambuscade, Omen, or any other content more then a minute or two max. Other than CP campaigns, there are always apex camps available. I started a mule on Ragnarok because I felt like maybe I wanted a small server feel again. I gave it a fair shot, leveled to 99, did all the missions, joined a couple linkshells, but overall I missed the convivences of things selling more frequently, larger pool of people for PUG's, people to meet, and having more options. I don't think SE should merge any severs, myself, if anything maybe once a year offer a single free server transfer to people, who have not transferred within the last year, during a campaign (anniversary?) to people looking to escape a "dead" server or a "overpopulated" server.
I suggest, if you think you might want to move, pay the dollar or two for a mule and try it out a month or more, if you enjoy the feel of the new server, then move! As a added bonus, if you finish RoV, you can get more DM augments during the campaigns! During the campaign next month, I think its only like $10(?) to transfer.
In any case, if you think your server needs changes your opinion would probably be valuable. I'm struggling to understand how so many people are posting judgement on a server they don't even play on. -
11-28-2020, 09:02 PMSirmarkiI think a fair amount of people moved from Asura to Bahamut as of late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lockhart
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11-29-2020, 08:10 AMAlhanelemMost servers didn't have that many concurrent users at FFXI's peak. Asura is overpopulated. Ambuscade had severe wait times before they created the duplicate layer area to reduce this, and so it's better now, but only Asura had that problem to begin with. Some other content had wait times to get in too and from what i've heard it's hard to find decent CP camps. Heck even on Shiva which has maybe 800 on the busiest of days and half that more often, the popular camps have people fighting over pulls.Quote:
We have about 3100 people online right now on a peak
Too many people on a server also means more lag. -
11-30-2020, 09:17 AMDzspdrefI agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lockhart
I am born raised on Asura, and can remember having nearly over 4k people at peak times, and hearing about other servers also near that same amount when FFXI was in its heydays.
If YOUR server has gone down in population, can it be something wrong happened with YOUR server, and not just blame Asura?
I have zero tolerance for RMTs. Reported quite a few (last count was 58, and each multiple times) and then waited... and waited... and waited.... then one day *POOF!* they were all gone, every name.
I have zero tolerance for spam dialogue. (I HAVE learned menu II > Config> Chat Filters > Yell [ON])
... although on my alts I WILL do the /random "The Fast and the (Dhalmel)s" or "Willy (Dhalmel) and the (Dhalmel) Factory" /yell myself just to break the tension. MANY people join in, it is awesome!
I have zero tolerance for people using tools to spam and farm. Again reported quite a few. Seen some results.
Sadly the ones yelling for exchange of in-game currencies for in-game help is NOT against TOS (i.e. mercs) unless they're using 3rd party programs to facilitate that, and again, I have had success in reporting it.
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See the pattern?
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Asura is just fine.
Ignore/block the spammers; report the ones ruining the game.
Let the ones in power do their job, with the more instances of it reported, the faster it works.
Concentrate on YOUR time there, and learn to ask and /T and /L or /L2 your friends for help and advice.
Works wonders when people play the game as it was designed to be played. -
12-05-2020, 06:02 AMTharlyI have played on Asura. Look at most of the whining people are doing and 9/10 its someone from Asura and something other servers aren't dealing with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lockhart
If Asura is anyone's type of server, I support that decision. I don't think that anyone else should be able to make the same choice for me though. I prefer a small server and that different experience it affords me. -
12-05-2020, 12:30 PMAlhanelem
I had friends on asura years ago who also played on mine sometimes. They regularly told me that Asura was the toilet of Vana'diel. Which made it all the more annoying to me when somebody (I wonder who set this off, really) started telling everyone to go to Asura.
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12-05-2020, 10:51 PMSirmarkiThat is because on paper it looks like it has the most active players, and that in theory, would make it a better experience for the vast majority of people.. Again, in theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
However, this is not the case, well, not anymore anyway. I speculate that a vast amount of that /sea all number are not in my opinion genuine players (I'll leave it up to the readers of this forum as to what constitutes "genuine" players).
So bottom line is: Asura is only as good as the Linkshell that you are in..... (as with any other server I'd imagine). -
12-15-2020, 08:31 AMElkanah
Honestly, while a server merge might be considered (or considerable), I'd honestly just like a world hop system like we have in FFXIV. This allows us to play with friends across the servers when we want, and then come back to our own servers when we're done. Granted, this may most likely not be possible because of how old this code is. But seems like after they removed PS2 and Xbox 360, which were basically holding the game back further, they're able to add new things to the game that weren't at all possible before. Funny how that works. But I'd say that would probably be a better suggestion.
You'd essentially be able to log out like normal, and use the mog house-- but that would be about it. Couldn't ah, but you can trade gil to other people in your party to help you buy it (or friends) if necessary for the item on the board. (While these options for buying things on market are available in xiv, you still have to have some restrictions, I think lol). -
12-19-2020, 05:03 PMSindaregionI started on Caitsith server, and was sent to Ragnarock because SE took a census and decided to shut us down and move us. I remember all the hassle, griefers, and aggravation. Waiting forever to get into Dynamis and LS leaders having to make schedules of when to have LS Dynamis runs with each other. Never able to get NM's because people slept on the pop spot to get them. Zones so full that you couldn't move without running into another party or get mobs to level on. So, I left for two years then came back because I had had enough. Now....there's a smaller population. Now the game is enjoyable, again like when I was a new player. The old problems are almost non-existent. You can reach your goals with advancing your character(s) without fighting with other players (and making GM calls because somebody went too far). The smaller server population is working, and perhaps that is why I see familiar names playing again. Maybe because of the reduced population people are returning. Since returning I've seen many positive changes because the negative aspects aren't as much of an influence as before. As that saying goes, 'If it's not broke, don't fix it'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tharly
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02-12-2021, 11:45 AMCesil
All my friends moved to Asura and Lakshmi is a ghost town. Why not just make one server? Or at least do a merge. What was the point of doing in 2010 when there were more players, but now that there are way, way less they just won't do it. Wish we could get a community rep to give a real answer as to why, at least then people would stop asking or at least have an understanding. Right now there is less than 300 people on. Nothing massive multiplayer about that ; ;
The only reason I won't move to Asura is someone has my name there already who doesn't even seem to be playing. Wish they'd do it so the older character keeps the name, I've been around since Alpha so most likely I'd get to keep my name (if they merged)
No point in moving also if my friends won't recognize me if I was forced to change my name and me them (because they were all forced to change their names already too) and I don't really keep close contact with them all outside the game. -
02-13-2021, 10:47 AMAlhanelemBecause that sever would lag like hell and there'd be lines to access content. Already Asura resulted in the duplication of certain instanced areas due to their physical capacity limits resulting in extreme wait times each time ambuscade is changed. Such a flawed question suggests a lack of understanding about how these things work. Asura has more players than the game was designed to handle. They should consider merging some servers, sure. but Asura is too big. Odin isn't far behind. We don't need a community rep to tell us that the game couldn't handle everyone being on one server. tons of crap would break.Quote:
Why not just make one server?
I'm on an alleged "ghost town" server and it doesn't feel like a ghost town to me. I have multiple linkshells and know who to talk to to get things done. That's what you need to do. You have to remember this isn't 2005, people don't shout for XP and make random parties anymore. And the cities are all quite quiet because a lot of people hang out in Mhaura because of Ambuscade. There's a nomad moogle there and a home point 10 feet away and a door to current content 5 feet away from that. It's only natural.