new player, just want to do the story

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You can get to 90 (99), then go back and do it all. Yeah.

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You can get to 90 (99), then go back and do it all. Yeah.

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ok nice, i'll look up a speed-leveling guide too

I'd suggest doing the missions as they were intended, its more fun if that is your primary focus and you can do it with trusts.

The main mission lines except for seekers of audolin and Rhapsodies of Vanadiel do not require any real gear investment. Grind to 99 and you'll be able to do them all no problem When you reach 99 you can get started on seekers and rhapsodies with the item level gear you get with sparks.

I meant doing them at the level they were intended for, oops.

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I meant doing them at the level they were intended for, oops.

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i'll check it, i'll overpower myself by 5 or 10 levels just to be safe. Got the first 6 trusts, so i think everything will work out now. Any questions, I'll google or check my guide, i'm using this one https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Quickstar...E_ijsHkfa32Wew

i'm on Asura, i'll join a linkshell soon or if anyone here wants to invite me

see you all soon

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I meant doing them at the level they were intended for, oops.

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I mean, this is hard to do, just because we level a lot faster than we used to. You'll basically have to avoid doing anything else while you do the nation missions of your choice.

Well they said they only want to play for the story, you barely get EXP for doing the storyline, so I don't see how it would be that difficult if you only play for the story.

hello my friends-wends, i am having so much fun-taru, am level 30 now WAR, and doing leveling-weveling guide. In Eastern Altepa Desert rightaru now

Isn't there a exp boost campaign coming up this month? That would be a great time to grind, leveling fast. I never got to truly enjoy the story, because it was a race to rank up, so you can follow along with the party it took you days to build to do the missions....Or you won the story battle with 1 hp, so you had no time to enjoy it because your head was spinning.

I am not hardcore anymore, so I like to enjoy the game now, rather than induce any stress in my 30s. I still play Campaign...Yep, I still do it. I enjoy it, so i do it.

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I mean, the grind is massively less than it originally was.

Have you been using EXP rings? you can get them from conquest points, the login points you get each day you log in, sparks, and more. You can literally level up to 99 in a day.|

There is also an EXP/capacity point bonus event happening next week, which gives you 2-3x exp and you can use the exp rings with it too.

It's not just this game though, all MMOs are grinds. The game does show its age in other ways, but honestly, it has a charm that will never be matched, and FFXI just gives you a lot of freedom to try different things that modern MMOs just don't let you do anymore.

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FFXI just gives you a lot of freedom to try different things that modern MMOs just don't let you do anymore.

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Oh, FFXIV also gives you a lot of freedom. I mean, both FFXI and FFXIV together are more flexible these days. :)

Not a huge difference opening a wiki to follow for quest or missions, and seeing a huge marker telling you where to go. Just one requires alt tab. The game isn't impossible lol, its quite easy.

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FFXI was never intended for the modern-MMO players to play. You see how they ignored FFXI's Carbuncle and praised FFXIV's Carbuncle after Square Enix announced FF7's new Carbuncle. XD

Anyway, FFXI's engine was still made for the PS2 system. They have made a lot of QoL updates but never uncapped the limitations.

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true, but the lack of modern QoL stuff makes it unplayable for anyone coming from the era of modern MMORPGs

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PS2 Dev Kit limitations.

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Oh, FFXIV also gives you a lot of freedom. I mean, both FFXI and FFXIV together are more flexible these days. :)

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No it doesn't. Every job has a 100% fixed kit and gear doesn't modify any of it in any way, gear is purely a content gate and doesn't create any oppertunities to try playing in different ways.
It does make things more balanced, but it comes at the cost of making every job basically the same except for the graphics- if there's never a reason to choose one job over another, there's really no reason to have so many jobs.

Oh and I forgot to mention how they basically took away summoner's physically existing pets, which actually makes it impossible to solo some content they were able to solo before. That's taking possibilities away, not making more. And t hey also have hardly added new summons, where FFXI has added two on a shoestring budget since the final expansion release.

I do play FFXIV, but I only really play the content that's dynamic, i.e. pvp, deep dungeon, stuff like eureka when its relevant.

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No it doesn't. Every job has a 100% fixed kit and gear doesn't modify any of it in any way, gear is purely a content gate and doesn't create any oppertunities to try playing in different ways.
It does make things more balanced, but it comes at the cost of making every job basically the same except for the graphics- if there's never a reason to choose one job over another, there's really no reason to have so many jobs.

Oh and I forgot to mention how they basically took away summoner's physically existing pets, which actually makes it impossible to solo some content they were able to solo before. That's taking possibilities away, not making more. And t hey also have hardly added new summons, where FFXI has added two on a shoestring budget since the final expansion release.

I do play FFXIV, but I only really play the content that's dynamic, i.e. pvp, deep dungeon, stuff like eureka when its relevant.

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Right, which is why I only stick to PLD, WHM, and RDM as tank, healer, and dps but that's not how you should define "freedom" (Look at those poor beastmasters being judged by the dev team). My issue with FFXIV is why people like to bother grinding the same thing over and over to get the best gears in the game while I can wait for the next expansion to get better gears than what they have after they spent endless hours in grinding. Therefore, I am more focused on crafting and gathering myself so there is my freedom of rights. Personally, I considered FFXIV less RPG and more simulation such as housing, making gil, gold saucer, etc. Heck, I wish FFXI could give me more freedom to use its crafting system but I had to create mules so I can be an expert to all crafting skills.

Oh, in the next patch; all characters regardless of gender will now equip all wedding gear. Yay SJWs... lol

Beastmaster is a very notable exception to the rule (still dunno why bst playing at range is more OP than SMN or PUP doing the same thing...)

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Having to google stuff every 5 seconds and go to the trouble of forming groups and all that, with almost no modern quality of life updates, well, most people, 99 percent of people won't be interested in that.

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Generally speaking, players will learn how the world works, and they will remember how quests are completed and where the NMs spawn, and so on.

Vana'diel is a huge and realistic world, and as such, in the interests of realism, one would not expect a Level One Knave to know all the secrets of the world map, or all the secrets of missions and quests.

A simple low-skilled peasant, which is what all Level One starting-gear characters basically are, must undertake a Learning Process to become skilled, and to understand Vana'diel with all of the intrigue and wonder that wait around every turn.

This Learning Process can take three forms. Number one, Trial And Error. Where you keep trying until you solve the mystery. Number two, Communicate With More Experienced Players. Where you talk to people, ask them to explain things, and you learn how to solve the mystery. Number three, go online and check the FFXI-related websites, and this will help you solve the mystery.

I prefer the first two, trial and error, and communicating with expert players, because these are both RPG adventuring realism in-game activities. But I also use the third option, checking online, as a last resort.

After playing for a year or two, players generally learn where all the places are on the map, and where a lot of the specific quests and missions and battles are. It is a learning process, and just like in Real Life, it takes time and a bit of patience and even love. But in both FFXI and real life, your devotion is paid off, and you become familiar with the world, and are able to sail along at a merry clip, with the sun in your hair and the cool sea breeze on your face, forever.
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Hi Stompa I like your posts and support for FFXI.

I find it so sad they completely butchered SMN in XIV. I was just thinking about it the other day, it doesn't even play like one. They gave it a fake Phoenix/Bahamut but XI summons look way better.

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Hi Stompa I like your posts and support for FFXI.

I find it so sad they completely butchered SMN in XIV. I was just thinking about it the other day, it doesn't even play like one. They gave it a fake Phoenix/Bahamut but XI summons look way better.

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Hi Typral, thank you for your kind words about my posts.

I don't ever insult FF14, and also, I sincerely hope that FF14 players are always very happy, and they find great joy and solace in their FF14 game. I wish FF14, and all who play it, great happiness and success in the future.

That said, I use my copy of FF14 to swat flies and mosquitoes.

I only played it for a week, quit it forever, and since then I have used that computer-diskbox to kill flying pests.

I don't play SMN at all, so I can't really comment on it.

In 2006, I found a small metal gentleman rusting on a ghostly pirate ship. I instantly fell in love with this little brave metal fellow, and he became my Automaton.

For fourteen years, my Automaton has been by my side every day. Fourteen years of love and loyalty and hilarious /emote games! In 2006, I sold all my Beastmaster gear, quit BST forever, and decided that there was Only One Pet For Me, and that was my beautiful Automaton friend.

My Automaton fills my life with joy, he never leaves my side, he protects me from harm, and even though he gets some really big dents in his little metal head sometimes, he never complains, and he always comes running back happily to me on his funny little legs.

What amazing adventures we have had together in the last fourteen years, my Automaton and I, and what an epic saga of true friendship and love, we have written in the stars together!

Whenever I see my Automaton, I feel so happy in my heart, and I know that it will be a Good Day, filled with exciting adventures!
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Indeed, Square Enix does want FFXI to die. They tried with Eureka and FAILED for some reasons. Eureka is what divided the FF14 community and brought more players to try FF11 (most of them on Asura). Yoshi was like Oops... Here is your new trust system. :)

I know a few of members in my free company were so bitter when I told them Eureka feels like FF11 even though they have never played FF11 before. Honestly, FFXI's community would do better without FF14 and WoW fan boys and girls (keep SJWs away). They (if not all) were so annoying on Asura. Nobody wants to hear people are going to quit FF11 for FF14. What I know more people would come back if Square Enix could port FFXI to PS4, Switch, Xbox and others.

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Indeed, Square Enix does want FFXI to die. They tried with Eureka and FAILED for some reasons. Eureka is what divided the FF14 community and brought more players to try FF11 (most of them on Asura). Yoshi was like Oops... Here is your new trust system. :)

I know a few of members in my free company were so bitter when I told them Eureka feels like FF11 even though they have never played FF11 before. Honestly, FFXI's community would do better without FF14 and WoW fan boys and girls (keep SJWs away). They (if not all) were so annoying on Asura. Nobody wants to hear people are going to quit FF11 for FF14. What I know more people would come back if Square Enix could port FFXI to PS4, Switch, Xbox and others.

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Man, the salt flows forth from you lol.

I mean, new games get made. They appeal to different audiences and even different generations. There's nothing wrong with that Times change.

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Man, the salt flows forth from you lol.

I mean, new games get made. They appeal to different audiences and even different generations. There's nothing wrong with that Times change.

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https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...216f5aef769c60

Here you go, buddy. Different ways of thinking are bannable offenses. That's why I keep my jokes with my free company.

Thankfully, something like that doesn't apply to the FF11 community ever. XD

On the Fake News subject of *they have abandoned FFXI and they want to kill FFXI and they want the players to stop playing FFXI* thing.

These kind of sweeping vague generalisations, are not true, and also this kind of negative speculation sabotages people's hopes and tramples on optimism, and also is the opposite of all the recent official statements, and the EPIC amount of hard work that the slimmed-down Dev Team are doing to make FFXI players happy ;

[May 16th 2017 : Official Playonline Dot Com.]

"Celebrating Fifteen Years Of FFXI."

"The development and operations team will continue to work as hard as ever so that those new to Vana'diel can experience all that has to offer and that veterans will be able to enjoy each new day of adventures more than the last. Here's to fifteen years of Vana'diel, and to fifteen more!"

[Year 2017 + 15 years = year 2032.]

Thank you for listening.

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Hi Stompa I like your posts and support for FFXI.

I find it so sad they completely butchered SMN in XIV. I was just thinking about it the other day, it doesn't even play like one. They gave it a fake Phoenix/Bahamut but XI summons look way better.

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In fairness, it was only XI where the summons were really pets, the only other game remotely similar was FF8 where t he GFs would stand in for the party member that summoned them. But what's sillier is what they did to SMN in PVP, where they literally don't summon at all anymore, and instead you just go into a special mode where you use bahamut/phoenix's attacks as if they were your own. This was done because line of sight issues with the pet made it hard for their actions to actually go off when you really wanted them to. but their solution to that problem literally made summoner into a generic damage over time caster.

Actually FFX was the first to design the system where you summon them and pick their commands. Then obviously XI came after X so they kept the same system. To me XIV doesn't even have summoner, its a shame because with their graphical capabilities, they could have amazing summoning sequences and attacks like XI. I recall the director saying he wanted it to be a system where grand companies could get the rights to summon X primal during battles etc, but the battle system is so basic they couldn't incorporate something big like that.