January 2020 FINAL FANTASY XI Digest

The latest FINAL FANTASY XI Digest is now available! The digest covers key features from the most recent version update. Check out the video, try the version update, and leave a feedback based on your experience of playing the new content.

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these are really great adjustments for beastmaster!!!!

Thank you!
These are MEANINGFUL changes which actually encourage the master to engage!

The ready recast merit adjustment is PERFECT. Thank you.

I was not expecting the Adjustment to READY move activation time. However it is VERY welcome and a very clever adjustment. Thank you.

I also was not expecting buffing ready moves to affect the master either. It is also a very welcome and interesting adjustment. Thank you.
I am curious if the same duration and potencies apply to master as to pet. I will be testing soon. :D
Did you forget about Rhino Guard and fantod though?

I still hope for some type of enmity generation on those self-buffing ready moves. so i will check and see. Its not in the notes, so I do not have high hopes. However this is a very welcome adjustment to beastmaster.

hmmm ??

the update notes say pets summoned with 'Call Beast'
Does this mean "Bestial Loyalty" pets won't give buffs to master? cuz thats gonna be expensive.

Please do something about the recent Blood Pact nerf/adjustement currently present in Cait Sith Prime, Alexander Prime, Lady Lilith BF and in Domain Invasion.

The developers implemented this measure in order to prevent easy wins with Astral Conduit which is very understable but it's also affecting physical multi-hits Blood Pacts and the purpose of the job ability Apogee. For example, a Predator Claws normally doing 30000 damage (10000 + 10000 + 10000) will deal only 12000 damage (10000 + 1000 + 1000) which feels really weak compared to what players can do.
Spinning Dive and Mountain Buster do barely better and can't make up for the heavy loss in damage.

Players can also nerf each other, this is particulary frustrating in Domain Invasion when multiple SMNs are present. People aware about the nerf are forced to wait over 10 seconds before using a Blood Pact if someone else already performed one otherwise the damage dealt will be extremely low.

A possible way to fix this situation would be to have the damage reduction take effect after 3~5 Blood Pacts or after 9~15 hits from multi-hits Blood Pacts (if the game can't recognize the difference between the Blood Pacts as general and the separate hits from a same Blood Pact) instead of 1. Only Astral Conduit should be penalized this way.

The issue has also been reported by a japanese player http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/56300

what they have to do is nerf the pld, brd, rng, pup thf and other jobs, the summoner doesn't do any harm without a corsair and a geomancer, and you need a lot of equipment to do damage, the smn has been a job that has never done anything has been more than 10 years that is not worth anything, when they are set to have been a more used job, stop protesting this job that if the astral conduit and nonsense, I have more than 15 years with The smn and I have never complained when they did not want me to party and not worth any event, stop crying please

The smn has always had to subtract all the time a very slow job to play, thanks to the astral conduit we have been able to enjoy something more of the smn, what they have to do is that they can not enter more than 2 smn in a party and this problem, but please always stop crying for the same thing, pld, cor, rng, thf, pup, blu, these jobs can shine better than the smn and would need to be nerfed, I hope the new avatar hurts because the last ones They did not do anything, the smn does not hurt only when in a party there are more than 3 smn it hurts, otherwise the smn without buffs is very bad, I hope they fix all this

I for one welcome the changes to Beastmaster. However there has been (I hope) and unintended consequence to the speed change of Ready moves. It is now no longer possible to swap from a "ready" set so the pet damage set. This means in order to maintain the minimum Ready time of 10 seconds, you must full time the level 75 legs that has -5 ready recast reduction. This has the net effect of making all BST ready moves weaker, except when under Unleash when the legs are not necessary.

Please consider a further adjustment to the ready recast merit category, 3 seconds per merit, which will eliminate the need for this level 75 piece of gear and restore BST ready moves back to their prior potency.

Hmm... after a little testing on beastmaster there are some problems.


The ready activation time reduction is nice in some ways.. but its actually a penalty for normal use.

Players have been swapping 2x gearsets for every ready move. This is just like a fast cast set and a magic attack bonus set for elemental magic. OR a bloodpact delay reduction set and a bloodpact damage+ set for summoner.


With the delay reduced to 0.25 seconds, it is no longer possible use 2 sets. This will not matter for the moves with instant casting time because pet tp bonus is all that matters for those.


The macro looks like this:

/equipset 19 (Aymur, Charmer's merlin, Nukumi manoplas +1, desultor tassets)
/bstpet 1 <wait .5>
/equipset 20 (Pet mab gear, or pet macc gear, or pet attack gear or pet Double attack gear)

However, the 3rd line cannot activate now. It cannot work. The only work around is to do everything in the first line macro. This mostly hurts when not using emicho gambierras +1 in the leg slot for sweeping gouge, pentapeck, chomp rush, etc... however it hurts all the damage dealing ready moves.

I have not tested the effect on Unleash yet, which this will not matter for. WE can probably use more ready moves during unleash, and tp is locked at 3000 already and recast is no issue, so the change is definitely a buff to unleash. But it is a nerf to normal fighting.

IF you want to keep the .25s ready timer, AND not have it a nerf, then ready recast merits would need to be 3s per merit, AND the way Aymur TP Bonus works would need to change to be like Nukumi Manoplas +1.
Otherwise, this update includes another nerf to Beastmaster and I think I would prefer the ready activation time to remain closer to 1 second than to .25 seconds.

Also the haste from Zealous Snort is disappointing. Don't get me wrong, 25% haste is very nice. However, it is Magical Haste instead of Job Ability haste, and it Overwrites haste II.

This means that if we use it while buffed by players or trusts, it actually becomes a debuff.
It would be much better, and more appropriate if it were Job Ability Haste instead of Magical haste.

Dear Director Fujito,
Thank you for the significant effort towards the Beastmaster class. The quality of life improvements towards removing the need for Charmer's Merlin is appreciated. I have taken the time to consolidate some feedback and hope you consider it.

1.) Most JA activation is still inconsistent with 7 yalm restriction, especially REWARD.
2.) Instant Ready activation is problematic because it is breaking our ability to swap gear consistently. We cannot wear Desultor Legs for Ready-5 consistently. Please revert this or increase Ready merit from 2 seconds to 3 seconds.
3.) Zealous snort is overwritten by Trust Haste2 and significant other Buff priority problems. (This should be Haste2 or JA Haste in my opinion). More buffs should extend to the party so that Beastmaster can be willfully included in a group setting.
4.) It is not acceptable to rely on lvl 113/117 pets for self-buffs when content level can reach 145-150. Can you give us 5/5 Beast Affinity automatically? This should allow jug pets to match our item-level natively. Replace Beast Affinity with a meritable category that increases the distance from 7 yalms to 12 (+1 per merit).

The long-standing job ability activation inconsistencies have been compounded by additional difficulty in swapping gear for Ready moves (Beastmasters do this for recast time (Legs, specifically), as well as Pet buffs).

To summarize, your effort is greatly appreciated, but this months' update for Beastmaster seems to be more hindering than helpful, as it does not ease the frustration of inconsistent job ability activation for all job abilities ...and abilities such as Ready, penalizes gear-swapping for recast duration and potency of pet abilities.

Respectfully, please try again.

RE: Beastmaster Job Update

I agree with the above posters on all the points raised.

Whilst the merit category revision to Ready Recast is most welcome, it is insufficient to cover the loss incurred by the added difficulty in equipment set swapping. Losing access to both -5 recast reduction pieces is a net loss.

The least intrusive solution would be adding an ilvl 119 item with -5 ready recast reduction, or adding that parameter to an existing piece of equipment.

On a related note, as your vision for the job appears to encourage more frontline melee, increasing the range of shields usable by BST would be most helpful. For example, allowing access to Blurred Shield would add incentive as it is well suited to BST/DRG fencer type builds.

Finally, the damage capability of all pets has largely remained static for several years now. Isn't it past time to increase their dps potential? Especially given the relative scarcity of equipment with pet attack, their utility against high-level targets has effectively declined substantially.

Hello!

Thank you for the video! Please try your best from now on. :)

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Yeah this is a 1 step forward 2 steps back for bst. Really need to fix the distance thing... I get you've changed your mind on how bst should work after 15 years but you can have it be something like 10-15 yalms and still be in melee range... heck some mobs even that would leave you out of range when meleeing.

please announce something for Fan fest, please be FFXI Reboot and get rid of this PS2 engine. I've been waiting for news for Mobile or Remastered since it's announcement long ago


come on SE please!

AFter more testing and review, it appears that the ready activation time being .25 seconds does NOT help Unleash damage at all. The Animation delay is still the limiting factor.

I see no good point in keeping the normal ready delay at .25 seconds. It prevents some of the tp phase interruption for master with pet, but it loses ALOT of damage from ready moves and Adds aLOT of complication.

as enthusiastic my first impression for ready activation time is, the potential positives evaporated very quickly. It is better to revert that change, than to keep it how it is.
I think I already listed the other changes that would need to happen to overcome all the downsides of this change.

the plus side is a split second more of melee tp. However, making zealous snort Job ability haste instead of magical haste would do that much better.

Thank you for taking the time to adjust Beastmaster again.

Ready Execution Issues
The additional -5 seconds of Ready recast allowed us to finally drop Charmer's Merlin axe which is a step in the right direction for melee. However the changes with Ready animation time as stated is too fast to equip pet damage gear and you sacrifice the Leg slot to Desultor's Tassets.

I would suggest bringing Ready more in line with Summoner.

• Activation Time: 1.25 seconds
• Ability to interrupt the animation to execute another Ready move.
• Ability to execute Ready moves without engaging the pet with Fight.

Ready Buff Concern
My concern is that this style of play locks you into using particular pets to melee more effectively. You will always end up using a Sheep or Raaz pet to make use of their offensive abilities to melee. Crab and Jagil being the defensive side of this.

It feels like this new rock/paper/scissors model of choosing a pet is an unnecessary complication where you already have to consider the pets damage type, element and monster correlation.

If the goal is to make Beastmaster a frontline melee that the master is engaged at all times, then I would suggest alternatives that have worked.

• The boost to damage comes directly from the Beastmaster.
• Like Dragoon, where as long as you have any pet out.
• Like Summoner, where the duration is so long and Call Beast is so short you can stack abilities and move to your preferred pet.

Distance Issue
Distance remains a huge hindrance for Beastmaster. It is unreliable. You have to constantly worry about your distance to your pet and when multiple monsters are present, you have to find and run to your pet if say a caster from a distance uses an AoE spell and aggros your pet.

https://i.imgur.com/APWpXuk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hNWNMma.jpg

I'm not even that far away and in regard to buffs, I'm within the proposed AoE circle and cannot execute. Please revert this. I guarantee you, the state of pet damage right now isn't creating an exploitable opportunity.

Beastmaster does not have an endless supply of pets nor the damage to even keep up with current day melee on their own. They will melee if you give them reason to.

Suggestion for further changes

• Melee Gear Access/New Items: Blurred Shield, Iosheka Belt, and Knobkierre. Maybe some BST only shields and ammo that have really good master and pet stats.
  
• Jug Consumption/Inventory Issues: Like the other consumable jobs, maybe it's time BST just has a learn system for individual pets and has universal jug ammo. In this example /ja "Vivacious Vickie" <me> uses Call Beast. Bestial Loyalty changes to Deus Ex Automata and resummons your last recorded pet without full HP.
  
• Pet Poultice/Roborant: Give us a reason to use these. Roborant = Full Erase. Poultice = Potent Regen that stacks with Reward.
  
• Charm: Let us execute it with a pet for utility for a bind/enmity tool. Charm+ also works on duration.
  
• Tame: Can execute while a pet is active to reset hate on a target. Gives BST a unique tool to bring to groups. No more exploitable than death/reraise currently. Make it give a Tame resistance if successful so it can't be spammed.
  
• Feral Howl: Needs to be a useful stun and lowered to 3 mins like the other Killer job stun job abilities. Make mobs less terror resistant.
  
• Run Wild: Like Spur and Ready moves, should be allowed to use without first engaging a target.

They seriously still need to re-evaluate the ability range thing. But these changes to buff the job a bit with the extension of various monster buffs to the master, which is an incentive to play close. Stuff like this is all you really need to do to keep people in melee range- just make being melee range effective enough to be worth the risk and people will do it. You don't have to strong-arm people into doing it.

Thank you SE. This beastmaster Update is much better. Just a few notes.

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Originally Posted by Xilk

AFter more testing and review, it appears that the ready activation time being .25 seconds does NOT help Unleash damage at all. The Animation delay is still the limiting factor.

I see no good point in keeping the normal ready delay at .25 seconds. It prevents some of the tp phase interruption for master with pet, but it loses ALOT of damage from ready moves and Adds aLOT of complication.

as enthusiastic my first impression for ready activation time is, the potential positives evaporated very quickly. It is better to revert that change, than to keep it how it is.
I think I already listed the other changes that would need to happen to overcome all the downsides of this change.

the plus side is a split second more of melee tp. However, making zealous snort Job ability haste instead of magical haste would do that much better.

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I really like being able to Stun with lizard's new instant ready move :( But I prefer ready-5 from pants :/

about Zealous Snout:
Right Now, Zealous Haste+25% overwrites WHM Haste II (+30%). Please change this.

A) I agree Change to Job Ability Haste +25%... even if effect was lowered to 15~20% Job Ability Haste, it would still be preferred... or
B) Maintain Magical Haste Effect, but allow combining with Whm Haste II, similar to WHM+GEO+BRD haste effects.


Likewise, Crab's Bubble Curtain Shell effect (Magic Damage Taken-50%) has lower priority than whm shell V (Magic Damage Taken-29%).

A) Please consider giving Crab's Bubble Curtain higher priority... or
B) Change Crab's Bubble Curtain to Magic Defense Boost instead.

This BST update is much better. I want to start out by saying "thank you".

Add me to the list of people saying that:

a) the new Ready activation time means that we either need to give up midcast pet attack or magic attack bonus legs, or eat a 15 second charge timer. It's not ideal. Please just make BST Ready moves identical to SMN as far as activation timers and don't animation lock us during Unleash please.

b) Zealous Snort should be job ability haste. That opens up more usefulness for it.



To beastmaster's overall utility as a frontline damage dealer, though, I think this update sorta addressed one side of that but wasn't a full solution. Melee damage dealers in FFXI are generally characterized by either native multihit:

-thief
-samurai
-dancer

Attack boosts and physical damage limit bonus:

-dark knight

Or both:

-dragoon
-warrior
-blue mage

Beastmaster can now reach high levels of attack but we still have no native multihit, and axe weapon skills are versatile but not exploitable. For example, Mistral Axe has a 50% STR mod and 13.625 fTP at 3000 TP. Savage Blade has a 50% STR 50% MND mod and 13.75 fTP at 3000 TP, and is also two hits. Mistral Axe should have a higher STR mod or higher fTP, or both. And BST needs either access to better melee gear (why are we not on Niqmaddu Ring or Knobkierrie? Rwolf has some good suggestions in his post) or some form of native multihit. We gain TP too slowly and our weaponskills are not that strong.

Why not add a 119 hippogryph pet (or raise the level cap on Falcorr?) and add Fantod to the list of pet abilities that also affect the master? That would provide us with better WS damage and fit into the framework that you have created for BST with the January update.

Please add more MERCH, i love to support the game and get cool stuff

Re: bst update, I just want to reiterate what has been so well explained above...

i) Fix the haste prioritization on the boar (ready overwrites trust haste II with a lesser magical haste). Extra points if you make Vickie's haste JA haste so that Fencer builds would actually be viable.

ii) Fix the MDEF on crab (trust Shell V overwrites ready with a lesser mdef).

iii) Allow us to hit the BST ready delay cap without resorting to axe-swapping or using non-ilevel pants during ready moves.

iv) Make pets with special ready moves that impact the master reach 119 level cap. I'm not playing with under-leveled pets at this point in the game.

We all really appreciate that bst was finally worked over, we just need to fix these things with the implementation to make it right.

Thank for you this adjustment. It's a fun idea and much more interesting than just tweaking a few numbers here and there.

There are, however, a few problems related to the adjustment that I'd like to draw your attention to in the hopes that they will be rectified. I'll be brief as most have already by mentioned by others.

While I very much appreciate adjustments to the Ready recast merit (finally we can get rid of Charmer's Merlin - this is wonderful), we are still forced to use a piece of level 75 equipment in order to fully reduce our recast time. This is really dangerous in an item level environment, even if we remove the Desultor Tassets after one second (which I must emphasise is the minimum /wait time). If the merit reduced recast time by 3 seconds instead of 2, this final piece of ancient equipment can finally be purged from our inventories, and I would owe the development team a round of Tavnazian tacos.

There are some potency and prioritisation issues with some of the shared enhancement effects, notably Bubble Curtain (wiped by the weaker Shell spells), Metallic Body (the effect is really quite weak) and Zealous Snort's Haste effect. As other people here have said, The latter needs careful consideration; it's weaker than the Haste II effect we can readily access with Trust, and overwrites it. If the effects could stack, or at least prioritise correctly, it would be appreciated.

The sharing of enhancement effects is really fun, but it does mean that some pets without enhancement effects are now significantly weakened relative to pets such as the raaz, sheep, pugil, crab, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and having a wide pool of pets to draw from is part of what makes Beastmaster fun. It would be really nice if, in the future, more could be done with this "sharing" mechanic - pets could be given more enhancements, like mandragora gaining access to Photosynthesis, or even things outside of enhancement effects - for example, the MosquitoFamiliar's Infected Leech could restore some HP to the Beastmaster (or even their allies!). Not all pets have obviously applicable moves, nor do all pets necessarily need them, but expanding the scope of pet moves affecting the Beastmaster in some way would be a lot of fun. And if some, or even all, were able to affect our allies... well, that'd be even more fun.

The inclusion of underlevelled pets in the list of transferrable enhancement effects I think highlights a need for Beast Affinity to be improved. There is a perfect opportunity here - simply improve the potency of the merit category, as you did for Ready recast! As I said before, a wide variety of pets makes for fun and flexible options.

Outside of ideas related to this adjustment:

- Charm, Gauge, Sic and Tame still have no place at level 119. Please find a way to make these fun again, while retaining the original functionality. Any chance we could Charm a pet alongside a jug familiar?

- Perhaps you could consider better shields and a higher shield ranking for Beastmaster, as we're supposedly a frontline job?

- Please continue to bear in mind that gearing to support our familiars and ourselves simultaneously is very difficult. I recognise and appreciate the work done so far, but it must continue, and hopefully improve.

- Could we please use non-aggressive Ready moves when the familiar isn't engaged?

- The distance nerf is still broken, unacceptable, and in need of reversion. I don't think I speak only for myself when I say that I will never accept the development team's stance on this matter.

As a final, semi-related comment, I think careful reading of the comments in this thread illustrates the importance of reducing the minimum time permitted for /wait commands for everyone. It's sad when "broken" for some people is the only experience of the game that I legitimately have access to.

The attempt to improve Beastmaster is welcome, but has fallen flat, the shared master buffs is a neat touch, but ultimately doesn't fix the core issues. The lack of ability range is extremely frustrating, I personally would prefer a full revert to original Ready distance, but if you're dead set on making sure the player is within AoE range, consider raising the ready distance to at least 12 or 13 yalms, most abilities will still hit them, and it will be far less infuriating to use.

Also the reduction in ability use time is neat, but ultimately makes us sacrifice the legs in our ready set due to recast considerations, please consider reverting this change or enhancing merits to fully cap ready recast without the use of gear, because ultimately this patch nerfs a job that's not in the greatest place at the moment.

:o :confused::eek:
So um... any reason we need this many 99999999 Model Synergy Furnaces? https://clips.twitch.tv/AlluringCris...MPEnergyCherrySynergy Furnaces on the login campaign rewards given out in the numbers considering you can't synergize it to a +1 version and also I do think we don't have that many inventory spaces or bags/units with that many spaces to even hold that many of them, If you could bazaar them or AH them, maybe at least npc sell them to a synergy guild sort of sales NPC then I guess the non+1 would make sense then since apparently it must also be treating it as a stackable furnishings items as well.

I honestly thought :eek: you could get two of them and synergize two of them into a +1 version that would look like the synergy furnace in Bastoks Metalworks that has more of gold/golden color furnace metals look to it being next to the NPC Hildolf last time I checked, I was even hoping maybe it would have a clickable synergy furnace reactions inside MH additionally upon it becoming a +1 or doing a +1 version of it that really doesn't just yet, apparently. . .
I tried adding these combinations too to see if it synergize a special kind of synergy furnace furnishing as well: two synergy furnaces furnishings - a catalytic oil = no results, {the catalytic oil used to make elemental fewell}, two synergy furnace furnishings - catalytic oil and an Astral Matter which again has no crafting synergy effect because not in the game after all apparently to which I was hoping it was to make the synergy synergizing effect of synergizing as even sometimes you see happen when you zone into an area that has two synergy furnaces side by side as you walk closer to them becoming onto view!

Hope that helps and if the link of my yogorockbowlerffxi11yo twitch clip of it happening doesn't work try this one?: https://dashboard.twitch.tv/u/yogoro.../content/clips
then look for the clip that says... Holy Moly!!! that's a lot of synergy furnaces as a title to it, k?

Thank you for the feedback.

The number of participating adventurers was larger than we anticipated. As such, monsters were often defeated almost instantaneously without much time to do anything at all.

To address this, we increased the monsters’ HP when a large number of adventurers have assembled. As a result, monsters take somewhat longer to defeat; however, when compared to December, you should now be able to obtain more Escha Beads and other items that are rewarded based on battle evaluation.

We do understand that it may seem like it takes longer for those who are there only to collect Domain Points. However, please note that Domain Invasion isn’t intended to be content where you idly wait nearby, so we hope that you’ll consider contributing to the battles if you’d like for them to proceed more quickly.

The Model Synergy Furnace’s Moglification was specifically created for this implementation. The Synergy system can be a bit tricky, so take advantage of this effect to skill up!

We’ll consider other new furnishings as well.

Thank you for the feedback.

As of the January adjustments, gear swapping cannot keep up when used after “/pet” commands. This isn’t limited to just beastmaster, but rather tied to equipment that apply effects at a specific timing. Even if a particular macro functions correctly, (for instance, equip recast reduction gear, then execute a command, then swapping to another gear are all executed) it doesn’t go as far as to guarantee the activation of equipment effects. However, in this case there were some pet abilities where there was enough time to change equipment, which currently don’t function as they had before. This particular change wasn’t intended and will be addressed.

Next is the question of determining the activation time.
“/equipset” has always been a command that takes time between execution and actually applying the equipment. Changing the activation time to match this would mean a delay of 75 frames, which would be the same as summoner.
However, this would make the overall activation time slower than before, and would result negatively for players who don’t change equipment.

On the other hand, “/equip” command executes in 60 frames and is considerably faster than “/equipset”. There have been many abilities that were 60 frames, and so this would probably feel similar to how it was previously.

This time we’re planning to make adjustments using the latter idea. Should we receive a large amount of feedback that gear swapping doesn’t work or players who prefer to use /equipset instead, we’ll consider changing it to be the same as summoner, at 75 frames. Please give it a try and let us know what you think.

Regarding ability ranges, as we’ve mentioned multiple times in the past, we are not considering making changes. The January 2020 adjustments are meant to encourage beastmasters themselves to fight on the frontline, so we’d like you to find a way to work together with your pets.

We’re happy to hear that the shirts were also popular in the West.
We were able to release them in North America thanks to the support from our Western community.

We hope that you’ll continue to support FINAL FANTASY XI!

There is no issue with /equipset commands not swapping gear quickly enough on the server. If I use a macro with an /equipset command followed by a pet move, it swaps in just as intended. If there is a chance of failure, then it is incredibly small.

The problem is that the developers do not seem to have accounted for Desultor Tassets when they said, quoting the digest video: "These adjustments are intended to make recast time reducing equipment unnecessary".

At present the base recast timer for Ready is 30 seconds, with a minimum of 10 seconds. We can reduce this by 20 seconds with the following:

• 10 seconds from merits

• 5 seconds from the 100 job point gift

• 5 seconds from Desultor Tassets augmented with "Sic" and "Ready" ability delay -5

If the goal, as stated, was to make recast time reducing equipment unnecessary, then the simplest solution here is to provide another 5 seconds through either Ready merits, the 100 job point gift, or by reducing the base recast.

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Originally Posted by Yoji_Fujito

Regarding ability ranges, as we’ve mentioned multiple times in the past, we are not considering making changes. The January 2020 adjustments are meant to encourage beastmasters themselves to fight on the frontline, so we’d like you to find a way to work together with your pets.

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If the developers want beastmasters to fight, then more should be done to encourage it, rather than attempt to discourage them from not doing so.

The main issues with meleeing with beastmaster are:

• No native delay reduction

• Axe weapon skills are weaker than most other weapon types

• Keeping your pet alive often requires you to spend a lot of time in pet damage reduction gear, which has poor melee stats, resulting in even lower damage output

At present, since beastmaster melee output is low and will put your pet at greater risk of dying, not meleeing is only a natural consequence. Improving on these aspects would mean players would be more inclined to melee since by not doing so they would lose out on a meaningful contribution to damage.

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Originally Posted by Yoji_Fujito

The Model Synergy Furnace’s Moglification was specifically created for this implementation. The Synergy system can be a bit tricky, so take advantage of this effect to skill up!

We’ll consider other new furnishings as well.

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Um... don't think they actually took the time to read my original post or even actually took the time to understand my post by taking a look at the numbers shown in my clip upon the link I posted to show it's counting number...
Apparently, yes we are supposed to be able to select and grab 99,999,999 Model Synergy furnaces into our inventories spaces which they are totally unstackable LOL!!! well okaaay SE Dev crews or creators! {Yeah were do want me to put all of these 99999999 furnaces/model synergy furnaces into the bags/storages for all the spaces we actually do have to place them into holding it all, by the way, just saying... [gussing game creators trying to funny this time around by perchance!? :rolleyes:]

This on the January's log-in campaign rewards being given out for points exchanged to the items received by selection or selection of numbers.

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Originally Posted by Nadie

There is no issue with /equipset commands not swapping gear quickly enough on the server. If I use a macro with an /equipset command followed by a pet move, it swaps in just as intended. If there is a chance of failure, then it is incredibly small.

The problem is that the developers do not seem to have accounted for Desultor Tassets when they said, quoting the digest video: "These adjustments are intended to make recast time reducing equipment unnecessary".

At present the base recast timer for Ready is 30 seconds, with a minimum of 10 seconds. We can reduce this by 20 seconds with the following:

• 10 seconds from merits

• 5 seconds from the 100 job point gift

• 5 seconds from Desultor Tassets augmented with "Sic" and "Ready" ability delay -5

If the goal, as stated, was to make recast time reducing equipment unnecessary, then the simplest solution here is to provide another 5 seconds through either Ready merits, the 100 job point gift, or by reducing the base recast.

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I just don't use the gearing swappage \ gear swapping macro's commands and try to set myself to one gear's being best they can be for all situations myself but I am speaking for all gears for all jobs as well. It just seems to be complicated of a system to actually working of its own version created into the game myself with that much more of trying to be remembering to do too on those of us whom don't already have the best of memories to it too.

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Originally Posted by Nadie

There is no issue with /equipset commands not swapping gear quickly enough on the server. If I use a macro with an /equipset command followed by a pet move, it swaps in just as intended. If there is a chance of failure, then it is incredibly small.

The problem is that the developers do not seem to have accounted for Desultor Tassets when they said, quoting the digest video: "These adjustments are intended to make recast time reducing equipment unnecessary".

At present the base recast timer for Ready is 30 seconds, with a minimum of 10 seconds. We can reduce this by 20 seconds with the following:

• 10 seconds from merits

• 5 seconds from the 100 job point gift

• 5 seconds from Desultor Tassets augmented with "Sic" and "Ready" ability delay -5

If the goal, as stated, was to make recast time reducing equipment unnecessary, then the simplest solution here is to provide another 5 seconds through either Ready merits, the 100 job point gift, or by reducing the base recast.

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I feel like the obvious answer here should be replace the 1200 job gift that is currently pet tp bonus +40 to -5 ability delay for sic and ready.

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Regarding ability ranges, as we’ve mentioned multiple times in the past, we are not considering making changes. The January 2020 adjustments are meant to encourage beastmasters themselves to fight on the frontline, so we’d like you to find a way to work together with your pets.

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and as *we* have mentioned multiple times, your changes which you are being so stubborn on have had substantial unintended consequences, and you keep missing the point. There are other ways you can encourage players to be on the front line, and you've even already implemented some of them

So why are you doubling down so hard on this? You continue to fail to understand what the real problem is. Your change intended at ending a playstyle you don't agree with didn't even really accomplish that goal. It only makes it inconvenient, not impossible. All you accomplished here was making the normal gameplay experience for BST a less pleasant one. What good is a balance change if it means nobody enjoys playing the job anymore? Find a way to achieve your goal without crippling the experience for people who already play the way you want them to.

The January 2020 adjustments provide benefits for keeping close. This is really all you needed to do. Why keep a draconian penalty in place that harms players playing the intended way as much as it harms the unintended way you don't want?

As others have put it, the correct approach to the "problem" is make close range combat more viable for the job- not strong arm people into doing it despite it not offering a lot over the previous alternative. It's borderline insulting how you continue to dig your heals in and not really listen to what your playerbase is telling you- Something you have a unique obligation to consider in order to keep your paying customers.

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Originally Posted by Yoji_Fujito

Thank you for the feedback.

As of the January adjustments, gear swapping cannot keep up when used after “/pet” commands. This isn’t limited to just beastmaster, but rather tied to equipment that apply effects at a specific timing. Even if a particular macro functions correctly, (for instance, equip recast reduction gear, then execute a command, then swapping to another gear are all executed) it doesn’t go as far as to guarantee the activation of equipment effects. However, in this case there were some pet abilities where there was enough time to change equipment, which currently don’t function as they had before. This particular change wasn’t intended and will be addressed.

Next is the question of determining the activation time.
“/equipset” has always been a command that takes time between execution and actually applying the equipment. Changing the activation time to match this would mean a delay of 75 frames, which would be the same as summoner.
However, this would make the overall activation time slower than before, and would result negatively for players who don’t change equipment.

On the other hand, “/equip” command executes in 60 frames and is considerably faster than “/equipset”. There have been many abilities that were 60 frames, and so this would probably feel similar to how it was previously.

This time we’re planning to make adjustments using the latter idea. Should we receive a large amount of feedback that gear swapping doesn’t work or players who prefer to use /equipset instead, we’ll consider changing it to be the same as summoner, at 75 frames. Please give it a try and let us know what you think.

Regarding ability ranges, as we’ve mentioned multiple times in the past, we are not considering making changes. The January 2020 adjustments are meant to encourage beastmasters themselves to fight on the frontline, so we’d like you to find a way to work together with your pets.

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Just change the damage abilities to 75 frames already (the same as smn) it will save you time, /equipset is too valuable of a macro tool to passby and /equip piece by piece now adays begs players to use 3rd party tools.....

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Originally Posted by Yoji_Fujito

Regarding ability ranges, as we’ve mentioned multiple times in the past, we are not considering making changes. The January 2020 adjustments are meant to encourage beastmasters themselves to fight on the frontline, so we’d like you to find a way to work together with your pets.

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Distance for ability activation is broken.
It's been mentioned dozens of times, the distance for ability ranges are broken. Please listen to your community. We are frequently put in a position where maintaining standing on top of the pet is hard. The game has so many mechanics that revolve around constant movement.

Beastmaster pets have their own enmity. They will run after anything that hits them with area of effect and you can't call it back unless you run to go stand on top of them. No other pet job has to deal with that.

Bind and knockback effects are equivalent to Amnesia. I can't command my pet if on some fights I'm constantly being thrown out of the small range you're giving to issue any command at all. The changes to range are extremely overbearing.

January 2020 Changes to Melee
If you want players to melee with their pets then make meaningful contributions to melee. The January 2020 changes wasn't enough. I also don't like the precedent this creates where you're stuck using certain pets to melee.

• Harden Shell: Comes from a Level 99 Jug that can only hit item level 114.
• Secretion: Evasion+25 is nothing. Especially on a job with C rating in Evasion.
• Rage: Forced to use a weak jug pet for Attack +50%/Defense -50%.
• Zealous Snort: Haste is overwritten by Haste II, which almost everyone is gonna have access to with trusts. Counter and Magic Defense Bonus is good. Pretty much stuck using this jug only.
• Water Wall: The duration is random.
• Bubble Curtain: The Magic Damage Taken is overwritten by Shell/Shellra V even though it's more potent.

I feel like the team is trying to rewrite Beastmaster into something else and is not sure what to do. This feels like how Puppetmaster was treated in the beginning but worse.

Ideas

• Give us good axe/shield Fencer builds.
• Remove the distance nerf to ability activation.
• Uncap jug pets so we have more at 99.

At least FIX the pet AI so it does not attack random monsters on its hate list. Its very annoying having pet constantly dart all around the battle field, especially now with the super small command radius. Group events with multiple monsters are a nightmare because the pet is always running out of command radius attacking the wrong monsters. In these battles I spend half the time spamming Heel, Heel, Heel, Heel, Heel when I could be using Ready for damage instead.

A major solution for inventory and equipment torment

My theory for a combined JSE equipment evolution. This is an incredibly innovative concept compared to the status quo of FFXI from launch to present day. It would require the creation of at least one new type of a NPC. This NPC could be a stand-alone NPC or duplicates could be spread to major cities similar to how Porter Moogle are placed.

With a version update for content a new class of progression JSE item would be introduced. To obtain this new class of progression JSE a player would interface with the new associated NPC when their current job is level 99. That way the NPC selects it's dispensable items corresponding to the job the player shows. Example: a player speaks to the NPC as a level 99 DRG, the NPC menus adjust and selections are established for the DRG equipment category.

This NPC will dispense at ZERO cost a new blank piece of progression JSE (congruous to what is already established with base dispensable trial of the magian progression weapons).

Each non-weaponry equipment type would dispense a menu select-able item.

Head / Body / Hands / Legs / Feet / Waist / Back / Neck / Ammo (Satchel) / Left Ring(1) / Right Ring(2)

FFXI dev team would apply a visual skin (appearance) and a name for each of these. Appearance could be entirely new or a regenerated use of currently existing appearances (i personally would chose the abyssea class skins).

The new progression JSE equipment would require a "EX" item tag, and CAN NOT receive a "rare" item tag. This is extremely important as concerns the attribute for +/-enmity as i will explain further below.

OK! now on to the good part of how this works. I can best describe it as attribute assimilation. For fans of Star Trek, a reference would be how the Borg are conceptualized. Your new progression JSE assimilates and combines the attributes of each item a particular job can wear, {Obvious exclusions can be made for specific non-combat related attributes such as Warp and Teleport capabilities}

WHILE WEARING a currently existing item, the player trades the new progression JSE item corresponding to the item slot they are wearing to the new NPC and that new NPC has TWO confirmation dialogues. ~ 1st is apply enmity. This gives selections for "Yes" "No" and "Neutral". Selecting "Yes" will apply the enmity attribute of the item you are wearing to the corresponding JSE progression item. Selecting "No" will ignore the enmity attribute. Selecting "Neutral" will remove adjustment of +/- enmity from the JSE progression item. ~ 2nd is apply attributes. This gives selections for "Yes" and "No". Selecting "Yes" will apply the highest value of a combat attribute to the corresponding JSE progression item when compared to the item that is worn and the current attributes on the JSE progression item. Higher value overwrites lower value and lower value will never overwrite a higher value. Attribute values are stored onto the JSE progression item using the existing augmented capability display. {Reference Oseem / Nolan npc and Escha item augments}.

This innovation will not only fix the torment associated with inventory limitations, but in addition will fix the torment associated with pre-cast & potency & idle & +/- enmity & JSE capes & selective adjustments related to /equipset and macros.

Below i'll represent a brief display of a set of trades for a visualization of what i have described above.

We start with our "Blank" JSE progression item. In it's "Blank" state it would only have an associated appearance and whatever it's attached name would be. For this case we will utilize a Head slot equipment for WAR. We trade the blank JSE progression item to the npc as we are a lvl 99 WAR while we have equipped on our character a Boii Mask +1. We select our choices from the dialogue confirmations and our JSE progression item will now have these augments. ->

DEF:114 HP+43 STR+33 DEX+17 VIT+32 AGI+15 INT+11 MND+11 CHR+11 Accuracy+24 Attack+24 Evasion+36 Magic Evasion+48 "Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+7% Critical hit rate +4% "Double Attack"+5% Set: Augments "Double Attack"

Now we remove the Boii Mask +1 and equip on our character a Pummeler's Mask +3. We trade the JSE progression item to our new favorite NPC and select the dialogue confirmations and our JSE progression item will now have these augments. ->

DEF:133 HP+67 STR+33 DEX+34 VIT+34 AGI+31 INT+31 MND+31 CHR+31 Accuracy+47 Attack +24 Evasion+56 Magic Evasion+73 "Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+8% Critical hit rate +4% "Double Attack" +5% Enmity+12 "Aggressor" duration +18 Physical damage taken -5% Set: Increases Accuracy, Ranged Accuracy, and Magic Accuracy Augments "Double Attack".

Now we remove the Pummeler's Mask +3 and equip on our character a Agoge Mask +3. We trade the JSE progression item to our new favorite NPC and select the dialogue confirmations and our JSE progression item will now have these augments. ->

DEF:135 HP+67 STR+35 DEX+34 VIT+35 AGI+31 INT+31 MND+31 CHR+31 Accuracy+47 Attack+83 Magic Accuracy+37 Evasion+56 Magic Evasion+73 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Parrying skill +21 Haste+8% Critical hit rate +4% "Double Attack" +5% Enmity+12 "Warcry" effect duration +30 Weapon skill damage +10% Physical damage taken -5% Set: Increases Accuracy, Ranged Accuracy, and Magic Accuracy Augments "Double Attack".

Now we remove the Agoge Mask +3 and equip on our character a Sulevia's Mask +2. We trade the JSE progression item to our new favorite NPC and select the dialogue confirmations and our JSE progression item will now have these augments. ->

DEF:135 HP+67 MP+40 STR+35 DEX+34 VIT+40 AGI+31 INT+31 MND+31 CHR+31 Accuracy+47 Attack+83 Magic Accuracy +37 Evasion+56 Magic Evasion+73 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Parrying skill +21 Haste+8% "Store TP"+10 Critical hit rate +4% "Double Attack" +5% Enmity+12 "Warcry" effect duration +30 Weapon skill damage +10% Damage taken -6% Set: Enhances "Subtle Blow" effect Increases Accuracy, Ranged Accuracy, and Magic Accuracy Augments "Double Attack".


{wherever i used the acronym "JSE" this refers to Job Specific Equipment}

I don't know why we're failing to communicate that we aren't explicitly asking for a revert, just a more forgiving range value. I get it, they want to keep BST on the front. Why can't they compromise and increase the range by just a few yalms to ease the frustration?

Just increase the current value by 3-5y and give hte master a little freedom to reposition without losing the ability to command.

The biggest thing I can't understand about the BST range issue is... Why is range an issue with BST and not PUP? PUP has better melee gear and weaponskills than BST, yet they can issue commands even further than SMN could.

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Originally Posted by Yoji_Fujito

This time we’re planning to make adjustments using the latter idea. Should we receive a large amount of feedback that gear swapping doesn’t work or players who prefer to use /equipset instead, we’ll consider changing it to be the same as summoner, at 75 frames. Please give it a try and let us know what you think.

Regarding ability ranges, as we’ve mentioned multiple times in the past, we are not considering making changes. The January 2020 adjustments are meant to encourage beastmasters themselves to fight on the frontline, so we’d like you to find a way to work together with your pets.

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I'm unable to guess how SE will fix inconsistent gear swapping with Desultor Legs (and retain the use of full Pet Stat sets), but Reward Job Ability activation is still broken. Please consider fixing the buff priority problems as well.

A simple fix of +3 yalms would go such a long way. It would mean, that the Beastmaster and pet can fight a monster from opposite sides ..and still activate Reward consistently. This is something we have always done since 2003!

As a paying customer, my patience is wearing very thin. However, I am reserving my judgement for the next Beastmaster update. SE can sometimes surprise us and produce very good things. I am still hopeful, you can get Beastmaster right.