Best Mnk Earrings?

Since I'm not one of those people who like to do a ton of math, I figure I should ask here. Which earrings should I use on mnk? Of course Brutal earring, but I'm not sure what to use on the other ear. Most mnks I've checked use Kemas, while others use Aesir earring from Odin. While making the Moonshade earring with Regain is probably ideal, I want to use that on my mage jobs.

Kemas is useless for meleeing. I think Aesir is the best, unless you need the acc from Kemas i suppose. Aesir also beats Kemas on Ascetic's Fury, not sure on Smite though.

Kemas is useless in every way, especially in Abyssea. Acc should not be a problem any more for 90%+ mobs in FFXI, so it loses in that aspect. From there, STR holds a close to 0 bonus on Ascetic's Fury and is marginally useful on Victory Smite (just the fact that STR in general is not needed after a few furtherance abyssites).

Aesir/Brutal is ideal.

Every monk I check nowadays is wearing kemas, with full AF3+2. A basic merman's earring is better, of course you can still get aesir. I bet a monk can zerk it solo nowadays seeing as I almost won it at 75 with another monk. A duo should be cake. The best earring after brutal is the Wotg mission reward, long grind but so is full AF3+2. Plus it's solabale.

edit : kemas is supposedly decent for ascetic's fury.

Tantra Earring (HP+10 "Kick Attacks" +1) seems to be better than Aesir (Attack +7 "Conserve TP" +3). What does everyone think?

I don't think you have a strong grasp of game mechanics?

I think shoko has no grasp either. People who dont understand fstr vs 60% str mods on ws really shouldnt make gear recomendations.

2 STR 2 VIT will always increase your WSC for Ascetic's Fury by 1, sometimes 2, and always 1 for Victory Smite. So it does do something.

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Originally Posted by Dfoley

I think shoko has no grasp either. People who dont understand fstr vs 60% str mods on ws really shouldnt make gear recomendations.

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Oh, I do very well have a grasp. It's an extremely minimal increase within Abyssea. Hence, the furtherance insert I put there. Maybe you should run that back and factor that into your thought process.

In that respect, calling it "useless in every way" was in bad taste, I guess. Kemas for WS.

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Originally Posted by Shoko

Kemas is useless in every way, especially in Abyssea. Acc should not be a problem any more for 90%+ mobs in FFXI, so it loses in that aspect. From there, STR holds a close to 0 bonus on Ascetic's Fury and is marginally useful on Victory Smite (just the fact that STR in general is not needed after a few furtherance abyssites).

Aesir/Brutal is ideal.

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To break it down:
kemas is useless in every way - incorrect, its useful for ws

acc should not be a proble - correct

str holds a close to 0 bonus on AF - incorrect, look up wsc

str holds a marginally useful bonus on VS - incorrect, look up wsc

str in general is not needed after a few furtherance abyssite - inccorect, this is for capping Fstr, wsc wont cap and the more str you pile on the more dmg these ws will do, hence why VS caps at 11-12k with 999 str


Damage = WD * PDIF = ( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP * PDIF

fstr will be capped after a few furtherance, wsc will continue to add base damage.

You're arguing semantics. Kemas is always 1.02 WSC for Smite. However, at high levels of WSC, 1.02 WSC is a decreasingly relevant increase.

Ie: Going from 218 to 219 weapon damage is a 0.04% increase in damage (my Smite inside Abyssea). Whereas going from 164 to 165 (my Smite outside) weapon damage is a 0.06% increase in damage.

Either way, if the increase in cRatio/pDif you get from 7 attack is even a 1% increase in damage, Aesir would win.

I'd personally go with Brutal/Moonshade for TP... Augments for Moonshade being Attack+4, Counter +3...

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Originally Posted by Shoko

Kemas is useless in every way, especially in Abyssea. Acc should not be a problem any more for 90%+ mobs in FFXI, so it loses in that aspect. From there, STR holds a close to 0 bonus on Ascetic's Fury and is marginally useful on Victory Smite (just the fact that STR in general is not needed after a few furtherance abyssites).

Aesir/Brutal is ideal.

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Wow and here for awhile I thought I was doing it wrong with Aesir/Brutal. I've seen so many damn Emp MNKs wearing Kemes/Brutal that I almost decided to buy one. I guess I was wrong.

str augmened merman

I go w/ Brutal/Aesir

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

I go w/ Brutal/Aesir

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This. I keep kemas for chakra...

Full af3+2 starting out, Sub in head off attowa Cature Nm, Sub in Back piece from Orthos for Cerb/+1 sub in neck for +3-4 str still only get 7-8k VS. wearing max str gear i own i get +67 str outside aby. 2-3k vs outside aby, +200 str or more in aby ... to me gear swaps dont matter much i like my af3 and vere . all this math, accounts for a # not a range which all this game is about Range att = higher cap u can hit for per swing when I hit for 350-400 outside aby with my crits and 100-250 non crit, im happy

im at +80 str outside abbysea even with v smite being 60% str what do you do with the other 40%??? i go with att and acc. Being that its a 4 hit build the acc sure does help. Either way you look at it not all mobs will have the same effect on your dmg. i did a 9.8k on long barreled chariot and ranged from 3k-5.5k on chloris. As long as the dmg output is good.

that's not how it works