With free access campaign..

can people who are subbed get some love too? maybe a red mog pell or escha/trizek ring access?

You get your old friends back for a week and a half, and more strangers to play with.

If more people are playing, it's like the devs are giving the rest of us free content.

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Originally Posted by Catmato

You get your old friends back for a week and a half, and more strangers to play with.

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People getting something I pay for free is not a benefit to me, in any way at all.

I don't mind them doing it but it would be nice if we could get something for paying during a free period, a red mog pell would be nice.

... It's not like they are taking things away from you with free login days. It's just a way for player who left to reconnect with the game, see if they like it and want to return full time, populate the game a bit more.

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Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki

... It's not like they are taking things away from you with free login days. It's just a way for player who left to reconnect with the game, see if they like it and want to return full time, populate the game a bit more.

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I asked if we could get a red mog pell or echad /tri rings due to paying for a currently free service, I have no problem with them doing free access but it would be nice for us to get something too. That's all I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

can people who are subbed get some love too? maybe a red mog pell or escha/trizek ring access?

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Why should a campaign specifically designed for letting old players check things out be giving things to current players?

You got campaigns which started before this event that they don't get to fully experience, is that not enough?

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I asked if we could get a red mog pell or echad /tri rings due to paying for a currently free service,

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It's not a currently free service. It's a free access promotion for people *not currently subscribed*. It is specifically designed for currently inactive players. You get to do all kinds of things as a paying customer that people who only log on for this campaign don't get to do, so why the sense of entitlement? One would think you'd be happy there's a few more people on the servers than usual.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Why should a campaign specifically designed for letting old players check things out be giving things to current players?

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probably because many of those old players checking things out missed out on the echad/trizek/kupofried thing, and it may be a factor in thier continuing to stick around

Dealers don't give free samples to people who are already addicted.

Actually I just realized they give them out in May of every year don't they? hopefully they are coming soon! May 16th every year we get red mog pells I believe, I think they are only sent to players with active subs too? We will see.

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

The Sparks grins necessary to upgrade reforge AF, Relic and empy its too much. Most of them can't solo High Nostalgic Battlefields.

Instead of Cost 7500 and 10 000 the items to upgrade Reforge gear.. The price should be 2000 and 4000. This will make the returning players get Fast Reforged stuff. So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

Alluvion Skirmish its terrible for players quit starting SoA expansion or before, get the survival skills and all the walk to skirmish entrance its Horriblyng boring and tedious. Then the RNG in Skirmish make this vomitive. When you finally can make that, you realice you can't play you need send Pets to kill the stuff rofl

Ambuscade its giving decent sets, at least they have accuracy and attack on them. This is what made me return to the game a good Set and a quick battle, not walk, not grind tedious stuff to access, casual, not RNG, i hope Square enix make more events similar ambuscade.

Job Points should be 10 000 Capacity points= 1 Job point. 30K per Job point its too grindy.

We are in 2016 Grinds and RNG are obsolete systems was made in mids 2005. In the present your public will not tolerate this.

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Another one told me i Quit the game because SoA was terrible and you want i grind/Farm SoA content everyday? -_-.

The other one said i returned 1 year ago tried sparks gear then joined Unity/Escha, my hit rate was 30% i was a hidrance for everything.

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I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

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horrible grind? the grind in this game for anything other than the superweapons (and arguably even including them other than mythic) isn't even one tenth what it was when they last played.

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Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

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Why not just party up with him and have a little fun farming the chapters and any other gear he'll need to get off to a decent start? A friend of mine recently came back after an 8 year break from the game and I helped him farm up some Escha gear for his BLM to get him started. After a couple of weeks he was fully capable of contributing to Escha and Reisenjima NM battles.

Yeah, whenever someone comes back to the game we always go out of our way to make sure they can catch up in various ways. They're your friends aren't they? Help them out!

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Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

The Sparks grins necessary to upgrade reforge AF, Relic and empy its too much. Most of them can't solo High Nostalgic Battlefields.

Instead of Cost 7500 and 10 000 the items to upgrade Reforge gear.. The price should be 2000 and 4000. This will make the returning players get Fast Reforged stuff. So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

Alluvion Skirmish its terrible for players quit starting SoA expansion or before, get the survival skills and all the walk to skirmish entrance its Horriblyng boring and tedious. Then the RNG in Skirmish make this vomitive. When you finally can make that, you realice you can't play you need send Pets to kill the stuff rofl

Ambuscade its giving decent sets, at least they have accuracy and attack on them. This is what made me return to the game a good Set and a quick battle, not walk, not grind tedious stuff to access, casual, not RNG, i hope Square enix make more events similar ambuscade.

Job Points should be 10 000 Capacity points= 1 Job point. 30K per Job point its too grindy.

We are in 2016 Grinds and RNG are obsolete systems was made in mids 2005. In the present your public will not tolerate this.

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Another one told me i Quit the game because SoA was terrible and you want i grind/Farm SoA content everyday? -_-.

The other one said i returned 1 year ago tried sparks gear then joined Unity/Escha, my hit rate was 30% i was a hidrance for everything.

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The reason this game is still loved is because it's a bit grindy and slow, it's a lot better than it was but to make it like all the other modern mmo titles would totally destroy the thing that makes this game loved and unique.

If your friends don't like ffxi, that's ok. It's called choice, maybe this niche isn't for them.

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Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC

I know 3 - 5 people could return FFXI but Sadly the Horrible grind is what keep they away.

The Sparks grins necessary to upgrade reforge AF, Relic and empy its too much. Most of them can't solo High Nostalgic Battlefields.

Instead of Cost 7500 and 10 000 the items to upgrade Reforge gear.. The price should be 2000 and 4000. This will make the returning players get Fast Reforged stuff. So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

Alluvion Skirmish its terrible for players quit starting SoA expansion or before, get the survival skills and all the walk to skirmish entrance its Horriblyng boring and tedious. Then the RNG in Skirmish make this vomitive. When you finally can make that, you realice you can't play you need send Pets to kill the stuff rofl

Ambuscade its giving decent sets, at least they have accuracy and attack on them. This is what made me return to the game a good Set and a quick battle, not walk, not grind tedious stuff to access, casual, not RNG, i hope Square enix make more events similar ambuscade.

Job Points should be 10 000 Capacity points= 1 Job point. 30K per Job point its too grindy.

We are in 2016 Grinds and RNG are obsolete systems was made in mids 2005. In the present your public will not tolerate this.

One of my friends told me. I will not farm 300k + Sparks per set in reforge gear just to be able to play with you and company.

Another one told me i Quit the game because SoA was terrible and you want i grind/Farm SoA content everyday? -_-.

The other one said i returned 1 year ago tried sparks gear then joined Unity/Escha, my hit rate was 30% i was a hidrance for everything.

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... didn't they just add a RoE for free 119 equipment or something? And as someone said, it's very easy to get escha T1 stuff with help from a friend.

Sounds like you and your friends should try FFXIV or something.

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Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki

Sounds like you and your friends should try FFXIV or something.

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that burn though.

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Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC

So they can start play end game with 7 - 10 days.

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The problem with reaching End Game in just seven days after you install a game, is that it would no longer be End Game.

The fact is that it took many players over a year to reach End Game in the original FFXI, and you can now reach End Game in under a month. So this is much faster. If you make it even faster, you risk removing the concept of "challenge" altogether. The problem with games that offer no challenges, is that people get bored and quit. FFXI has stayed online for a long time, because it is filled with challenges that people want to overcome. Other games that give lots of glowy weapons at level one, and no real challenges, those games are no longer attracting players.

You can farm REM chapters on Very Easy mode battles, if you get a few pieces of sparks gear, and some Trusts, to begin with.

It is only "grind" if you choose to view it as grind. The SKC / Merit Points BCNMs are actually exciting and fun, if you are just farming them a dozen times for your REM chapters. They do become very grindy if you are farming 10,000 plutons. But you don't have to do that. Legendary weapons are luxury items.

REM Chapters from BCNM are actually quite fun to farm, and any normal LS would help you with those battles, if you asked them to. I've helped lots of returning players with those BCNM, because the fights are fun, and I like helping people. FFXI is full of players who will help you, if you ask nicely!

Y'all know I am all for making it so that players can catch up, but I think expecting to be at end game level in a week is asking a bit much. Seriously. If you don't like playing the game, you aren't going to start liking it when you've got nothing left to achieve...

I definitely think there are some grinds that are still a bit silly but requiring a little time to get to end game is not one of those things.

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Originally Posted by Stompa

The problem with reaching End Game in just seven days after you install a game, is that it would no longer be End Game.

The fact is that it took many players over a year to reach End Game in the original FFXI, and you can now reach End Game in under a month. So this is much faster. If you make it even faster, you risk removing the concept of "challenge" altogether. The problem with games that offer no challenges, is that people get bored and quit. FFXI has stayed online for a long time, because it is filled with challenges that people want to overcome. Other games that give lots of glowy weapons at level one, and no real challenges, those games are no longer attracting players.

You can farm REM chapters on Very Easy mode battles, if you get a few pieces of sparks gear, and some Trusts, to begin with.

It is only "grind" if you choose to view it as grind. The SKC / Merit Points BCNMs are actually exciting and fun, if you are just farming them a dozen times for your REM chapters. They do become very grindy if you are farming 10,000 plutons. But you don't have to do that. Legendary weapons are luxury items.

REM Chapters from BCNM are actually quite fun to farm, and any normal LS would help you with those battles, if you asked them to. I've helped lots of returning players with those BCNM, because the fights are fun, and I like helping people. FFXI is full of players who will help you, if you ask nicely!

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Nicely stated and completely agree.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

horrible grind? the grind in this game for anything other than the superweapons (and arguably even including them other than mythic) isn't even one tenth what it was when they last played.

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Its bad compared to something like FFXIV. I was able to level all my jobs to 60 fairly easy in FFXIV and it really didn't fell that grindy since I was doing dungeons with people and fates. Now then if I play FFXI now merits are a huge grind and job points even worse since mobs give so few job points when you kill them.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Its bad compared to something like FFXIV. I was able to level all my jobs to 60 fairly easy in FFXIV and it really didn't fell that grindy since I was doing dungeons with people and fates. Now then if I play FFXI now merits are a huge grind and job points even worse since mobs give so few job points when you kill them.

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I can get 45 merits in about 20 mins, I can take a new job from 1 to 99 in 4-5 hours during double xp. That's not even fast, people can do that a lot quicker than me. Just as I lack the intricate knowledge and gear of how to get things done in FFXIV the quickest these days you lack the knowledge and gear of how to get them done here.

The entirely of FFXIV consist of grinding the same 2 dungeons over and over for the same pieces of equipment that gets updated every 6 months. Oh yeah, and the relic questline, which it's a giant grind and it's made entirely so people have something to do during patches drought.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Its bad compared to something like FFXIV. I was able to level all my jobs to 60 fairly easy in FFXIV and it really didn't fell that grindy since I was doing dungeons with people and fates. Now then if I play FFXI now merits are a huge grind and job points even worse since mobs give so few job points when you kill them.

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The anima weapons are pretty darn grindy (2nd stage being by far the worst, while the 3rd stage is laughably easy by comparison)

Most of what I do in the game right now is PvP (because im actually pretty decent at it) because I'm trying to secure a spot on the leaderboard for The Feast. Which I have probably done at this point, so this promotion comes at a perfect time for me. :p

Having said that, it makes me really miss Ballista. It's a total shame that they never bothered to try to fix some of its isssues.... As far as I can tell it's completely dead now- although maybe people still do it on a different server... though I enjoyed ballista a little differently from the hardcore-est people.

No one does any PVP anymore in FFXI as far as I can tell.

Personally I always liked Brenner... but I never ever ever got to try Ballista.

I love love love love Pancraton. I really wish they would extend shouts to the Colosseum zone so I could fiddle with it while waiting for something interesting to happen... then again I gave up on answering shouts some time ago so.. que sera sera

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Originally Posted by Pixela

I can get 45 merits in about 20 mins, I can take a new job from 1 to 99 in 4-5 hours during double xp. That's not even fast, people can do that a lot quicker than me. Just as I lack the intricate knowledge and gear of how to get things done in FFXIV the quickest these days you lack the knowledge and gear of how to get them done here.

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How is it possible to get that many merits that fast?

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Originally Posted by Zumi

How is it possible to get that many merits that fast?

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A somewhat decently geared player with strong trusts and a good amount of vorseals can do very well for themselves in Escha zones during double XP/CP campaign. Personally, I was running around in Reisenjima the other day as SCH just casting Helix spells and engaging mobs while my party of trusts took them down in 10-15 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

How is it possible to get that many merits that fast?

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A somewhat decently geared player with strong trusts and a good amount of vorseals can do very well for themselves in Escha zones during double XP/CP campaign. Personally, I was running around in Reisenjima the other day as SCH just casting Helix spells and engaging mobs while my party of trusts took them down in 10-15 seconds.

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A decently geared blu, a pet-geared BST (despair) or a nicely geared BLM even can aoe-melt through Zitah like butter for merits.

BST is a very nice entry job for this, you order your pet to attack something, let it get a few strikes in, heel, snarl, spectral jig and let everything link on your pet then aoe.

Or, if you have a nice -DT set for BST (Jumalik mail, twilight torque, Defending/Vocane/PDT Rings--since the rest of the slots go to -pet DT), you don't bother with jig and just link as much on your pet as possible.

I'm one of returning players here. Usually never absent whenever free login campaign occurs. Even usually taking break from FF14 just to play this. :D

Anyways, I don't know much about you guys, but I'm still enjoying the game so far. Yes, my gear are somewhat bit of lacking. Averagely i115 from skirmish I've done way back then before stop subbing, only one i119 on my Rune Fencer body AF. I already finished all expansion story content and even Rhapsodies back then, with help ofc. Even with all that, there's still like tons of stuff to do in this game which I really wanna. And I'm still enjoying it despite the limitation of newer battle content.

Tried Ambuscade the other day with LS mate, and it was fairly manageable. Would love to spam it, but like I say, still has many contents to do. But so far, I already felt that progress in this game has been quite fast, especially thanks to rhapsodies KI that grants numerous bonuses. The other day, I'm farming mats for coalition turn ins, and I realize my merit already shooting way too fast. Even already capped 40 merit that quick, I have to run to goblin @ Reisenjima just to deposit all of them since I have no idea what I need them for. Yes, I do heard about those HM version of those old battle which need KI from merits, but I'm not in rush for it since like I said, merit is super fast building up on me. I'm even doing this on MNK or THF that's kinda a bit undergeared for today standard, but it's still get the job done fast. :D

Trust system has been great help on me for running quick though contents. And I even got the chance to get the new mount system, which even makes things even more faster to do. Not to mention whole loads of transport option like home points & survival guides which practically makes it super easy to get anywhere.

My only regret is that I can't really play more than one MMO due to time, my own stamina, & other stuff like RL. ATM, I'm spending my subs on FF14 instead, but I do wish to continue subbing some day, when time allows. I do realize lately that FF14 has become a bit boring, especially with me already have all my jobs/doh/dol capped, and mundanely doing weekly caps like tomestones/red scrips, but I guess FF14 are still way easier to play, unlike FF11 which needs more time dedication. But I would still love to play FF11 again whenever possible. :D

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Originally Posted by Pixela

can people who are subbed get some love too? maybe a red mog pell or escha/trizek ring access?

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SQEX practically handed you the game... What else do you need? -_-

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Originally Posted by Gankfest

SQEX practically handed you the game... What else do you need? -_-

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I would really like a monkey, you know those monkeys that help people who are disabled? I want one of those really, they can go and open the fridge and bring you snacks and drinks.

That would be really great, I think we should get one of those. To keep if FF themed the monkey should be called moogle dave.

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Originally Posted by Gankfest

SQEX practically handed you the game... What else do you need? -_-

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you've posted some toxic reply in every popular thread. There are people who dont share your opinion, who like playing this game in its old and current state.

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Originally Posted by vienne

you've posted some toxic reply in every popular thread. There are people who dont share your opinion, who like playing this game in its old and current state.

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Nothing toxic about the facts... -_-

I've been more off-and-on lately but I was subbed continuously for at least the first 11 years of the game in the US. This campaign's purpose was to entice former players to check out the game again. You already get all kinds of great stuff by doing events and campaigns and such that the players logging on for this campaign do not get to do. So why does anyone deserve even more extra stuff?

Every time someone (Not just in this game, but other games too) does a campaign like this to try to spark interest in their game or product, you always have a few people who aren't the target of the campaign acting all entitled like they should have it too. If everyone got the rewards, not just the people they were trying to attaract, the campaign would be less effective. If even a couple people enticed by this offer resub to the game, it benefits you in the form of a slightly more populated server.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I've been more off-and-on lately but I was subbed continuously for at least the first 11 years of the game in the US. This campaign's purpose was to entice former players to check out the game again. You already get all kinds of great stuff by doing events and campaigns and such that the players logging on for this campaign do not get to do. So why do you feel like you deserve even more extra stuff?

Every time someone (Not just in this game, but other games too) does a campaign like this to try to spark interest in their game or product, you always have a few people who aren't the target of the campaign acting all entitled like they should have it too. If everyone got the rewards, not just the people they were trying to attaract, the campaign would be less effective. If even a couple people enticed by this offer resub to the game, it benefits you in the form of a slightly more populated server.

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Sorry, but i really dont understand why you are quoting me, I was just saying that if people dont like ffxi in its current state they should not come on the forum and make the type of comments this Gankfest person did. The comments that were posted were irrelevant to the game, but posted in an attempt to bash the enjoyment others have playing ffxi.
If people who come try ffxi during the free trial and dont like it and wish to post why they dont like it, they should atleast do it respectfully and relevant. Not hijack every thread going with some sarcastic slander.

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Sorry, but i really dont understand why you are quoting me

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it was a misquote, that wasn't the comment I intended to reply to. I'm not trying to "slander" you or anyone. It was actually directed at the person YOU quoted to say what you said. No need to get all upset. A case o failing to read carefully. There was also no thread "hijacking", as I was involved in this thread from the beginning and my post was still about the thread topic. One erroneous post does not constitute "hijacking every thread with sarcastic slander."

I've removed the quotation because it was a mistake, but I'd appriciate it if you did the same and retracted your comments towards me, and accept my apologies for associating you with an opinion that wasn't yours.

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it was a misquote, that wasn't the comment I intended to reply to. I'm not trying to "slander" you or anyone. It was actually directed at the person YOU quoted to say what you said. No need to get all upset. A case o failing to read carefully. There was also no thread "hijacking", as I was involved in this thread from the beginning and my post was still about the thread topic. One erroneous post does not constitute "hijacking every thread with sarcastic slander."

I've removed the quotation because it was a mistake, but I'd appriciate it if you did the same and retracted your comments towards me, and accept my apologies for associating you with an opinion that wasn't yours.

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i'm not upset, but you also missread what i posted as an answer to your quote, where did i say that you were the one slandering? i meant that other person Gankfest, did i mention you anywhere? I was just wondering why you quoted me <.<

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i'm not upset, but you also missread what i posted as an answer to your quote, where did i say that you were the one slandering? i meant that other person Gankfest, did i mention you anywhere? I was just wondering why you quoted me <.<

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Since you replied to me, I assumed I was the target of the entire response. Sorry, then.