Ambuscade really isnt working for us...

99% of people cant enter right now, been trying for hours and people have been spamming the tome trying to enter. For an event that actually needs to be played multiple times for the augmenting only having a limit on how many can enter is the worst thing that can happen and everyone waiting around for hours doing nothing is just wasting their time and making them angry. This NEEDS a fix right now or just get rid of it.

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This NEEDS a fix right now or just get rid of it.

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Tell yourself they removed it, that way you aren't doing it anymore and free up space for others.

Seriously though, they need to put limits on how many times a day you can enter while its new. Even the zones with dragons are being swamped with spammers.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings, everyone.

We are definitely aware of the congestion at the entrance to Ambuscade, and we apologize for the inconvenience this is causing.

As a first step to countering this congestion, maintenance was conducted earlier on the server that manages the instances. This aim of this maintenance was to make adjustments so that more instances are created. This should help alleviate conditions where it is not possible to access the content since instances cannot be created.

While there are still issues arising to the large amount of requests being processed to create new instances, which in turn are generated errors, we are currently looking into a way to make this more efficient.

The team will be working on a fix, and it will take a day or so; however, we’re planning to make edits so that the process is less cumbersome when entering the instance fails. With this edit, you will no longer have to target and talk to an NPC in the event a failure occurs.

Once again, we apologize for the inconvenience, but the team is working as fast as they can to implement a fix.

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TL, DR: Relax, they're fixing it. Go do something else in the meantime if you need to refill your patience meter.

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Originally Posted by Shyles

TL, DR: Relax, they're fixing it. Go do something else in the meantime if you need to refill your patience meter.

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That's a nice idea and all, but the problem here is that these hallmarks and some of its rewards won't carry over to the next update. If they can't get this issue worked out soon it's going to wind up leaving a bitter taste in a lot of peoples' mouths.

Perseverance and persistence is key here. Just keep clicking and you'll get in. Meanwhile, if participation crowding is that great of a concern they may extend the time of availability to compensate, not that I see a reason why they should, provided they address this within half its duration.

Parties that are getting in are getting in for much larger rewards a pop, and soloists will endure the lines to bypass the party meta. We're one day into content and already people have multiple capes to max, the herd will thin out itself on top of whatever SE will do.

SE's aware of the problem and will do what they do to fix it. In the meanwhile, just push on through.

Here is an idea....Make it not an instance.

Go to Valkrum dunes / buburini and add ??? marks...lets say 20-40 of them spread across the zone.

Valk for solo people
bubu for groups

Similar to unity/voidwatch ... no more instances cause that maintenence fixed nothing took me 1 hour last night and 30 minutes this morning to get into an instance.

If you're trying to go in alone, and are having problems getting in, and if you spot me there on Asura. Feel free to ask for an invite.

So long as you're ok with my playstyle, I won't refuse a party. (I'm a RDM that swings swords.) I probably won't recommend we go in on Difficult or Very Difficult to start as I'm not very geared. But I' usually had to to wait more than a few minutes to get in and really, I'm only soloing to avoid the party meta. (Only time I seem to be having problems is during mornings EST for some reason.)

Hyrist on Asura.

This event COMPLETLY SUCK spamming this book is boring as hell and you SHOULD at least make a system for a queue order, like you register your request and then you placed in a queue, because it' more than boring to spam this book and it is just completly UNFAIR when you see a random another solo guy (when you managed to form a team just to save time to entering) that coming 30min after you to the book and get warped atfer 1min of spamming...

Can we get a delay on the change for a month? many of us have been unable to do this event at all so it's unfair the people spamming it and blocking others will get everything and be ready for the reward change.

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Originally Posted by Diavolo

That's a nice idea and all, but the problem here is that these hallmarks and some of its rewards won't carry over to the next update. If they can't get this issue worked out soon it's going to wind up leaving a bitter taste in a lot of peoples' mouths.

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THIS. This is the issue. Either you spam it now or you end up losing out on the gear sets. And it is very doubtful that they are going to actually "fix" the issue, it may be a little better but it is extremely unlikely that it is going to be "fixed" unless they make it an overworld pop with a TON of pop areas.

Yeah. The event isn't going to wait for me to get another class leveled to 99 and geared thats party friendly and lets me do what I want.

It's not going to wait for me to find a more welcoming set of people who are just going to be ok with my under-geared RDM sitting on the front lines, or even just going /sch to support. (read:not main heal).

Those are special cases and exceptions that tend to show up rarely among desperate or generally more accepting players. So, I go on, I look to see if there's some friends I know wanting to go in, then I go in - alone if I have to.

Can we get an official response if there is a chance at the rewards being changed having a 2 week delay?

The zone appears to only have capacity for 8 arenas. At least that's my estimated # when I counted party leads and soloers.

There's huge incentives for 'hardcore' players to spam the content. Which is really the core of the problem. Takes too long to enter so 'groups' have a small window and our group can do 1 orc 1 dragon on a good night. We would sometimes like to do more but the wait is too long. This punishes casual players more than the hardcore ones who are on 24/7 spamming this content.

The rewards tier points are also far too high for 'casual' players to obtain at least up to the desired +1 items monthly given the congestion. At 500 points a day, it would require 29 days to get the required points to hit all the +1 item tiers. Incredibly unfair to some players. And driving soloers to spam the heck out of this.

I propose allow points to be carried over , say 10,000 max, & limit entry to once per day per RoE, so technically up to 4 times from the 4 RoE.
Add an RoE hallmark reward for 'clearing' the Dragon/Orcs, similar to FFXIV dailies duty finder reward. So up to 2 daily bonuses. This amount should be in the 200-300 hallmark range, allowing for decent accumulation of hallmarks even for soloers who do 1 kill per day.

The FFXI systems are archaic, and yet we're being forced to grind through this content with F8 Tabbing for hours and hours.


My suggestions:

Limit people spamming by: 1) increase reward per kill with a 'daily' bonus to make repeat kills less appealing, and 2) Add more books to avoid crowding and griefing by PC players on people trying to entry by standing right on the books 3) Add an upgrade path for the NQs to +1 them in case someone comes up short on points? If not, they are a waste of space and forces people to ho the 14,400 (?) hallmark tier to get all +1 gears 4) don't reset hallmarks? I'm still not clear of if these reset or not.

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Originally Posted by Dekusuta

The zone appears to only have capacity for 8 arenas. At least that's my estimated # when I counted party leads and soloers.

There's huge incentives for 'hardcore' players to spam the content. Which is really the core of the problem. Takes too long to enter so 'groups' have a small window and our group can do 1 orc 1 dragon on a good night. We would sometimes like to do more but the wait is too long. This punishes casual players more than the hardcore ones who are on 24/7 spamming this content.

The rewards tier points are also far too high for 'casual' players to obtain at least up to the desired +1 items monthly given the congestion. At 500 points a day, it would require 29 days to get the required points to hit all the +1 item tiers. Incredibly unfair to some players. And driving soloers to spam the heck out of this.

I propose allow points to be carried over , say 10,000 max, & limit entry to once per day per RoE, so technically up to 4 times from the 4 RoE.
Add an RoE hallmark reward for 'clearing' the Dragon/Orcs, similar to FFXIV dailies duty finder reward. So up to 2 daily bonuses. This amount should be in the 200-300 hallmark range, allowing for decent accumulation of hallmarks even for soloers who do 1 kill per day.

The FFXI systems are archaic, and yet we're being forced to grind through this content with F8 Tabbing for hours and hours.


My suggestions:

Limit people spamming by: 1) increase reward per kill with a 'daily' bonus to make repeat kills less appealing, and 2) Add more books to avoid crowding and griefing by PC players on people trying to entry by standing right on the books 3) Add an upgrade path for the NQs to +1 them in case someone comes up short on points? If not, they are a waste of space and forces people to ho the 14,400 (?) hallmark tier to get all +1 gears 4) don't reset hallmarks? I'm still not clear of if these reset or not.

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I really don't understand what the developers were thinking, how they allowed a small minority of people to spam it and ruin it for everyone. If people rationed themselves and did a few runs a day everyone could enter.

I don't get how Square could make this unlimited and spammable, especially when it's new.

All they are doing is letting a minority gorge and not letting anyone else do it at all. I was of the mindset to do 1-2 runs a day and I can't even do that, which means I'll be punished when they cycle the rewards.

What I see flooding the book with access checks is not a 'small minority'.

It's the silent majority that does not want to deal with the meta-party players who are cherry picking players who are literally asking for a party and aren't getting them because they're not a part of the in crowd.

Meanwhile, yesterday with a wireless connection, I did 9 runs (7 normal 1 Difficult, 1 wipe), most of which by bringing in people who I could fit in party while still making the group work. So of those runs I maybe had two of them solo. The rest was going with at least one other, or two other people.

Again, I will stress, this was supposed to be designed to be low-manned or even soloed. That's what 'accessible' means. Don't blame the player-base for what the designer are responsible for. A groups of players, one way or another isn't responsible for what's going on here. Meanwhile, if you want to get in, don't be picky with what difficulty or who you're partying with, and you'll get in.

Worst case, look me up and if I've got a spot, I'll pull you into one of my runs. Ask Olor, I'll get you in the zone at the very least.

I would rather solo it on a pup then have a whm LOL and drop the party when i say any dd can do dragon on vd, its just stupid easy.

The people ruining it are the elitest who refuse to invite others, not the people who want to solo and play the jobs they like.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

What I see flooding the book with access checks is not a 'small minority'.

It's the silent majority that does not want to deal with the meta-party players who are cherry picking players who are literally asking for a party and aren't getting them because they're not a part of the in crowd.

Meanwhile, yesterday with a wireless connection, I did 9 runs (7 normal 1 Difficult, 1 wipe), most of which by bringing in people who I could fit in party while still making the group work. So of those runs I maybe had two of them solo. The rest was going with at least one other, or two other people.

Again, I will stress, this was supposed to be designed to be low-manned or even soloed. That's what 'accessible' means. Don't blame the player-base for what the designer are responsible for. A groups of players, one way or another isn't responsible for what's going on here. Meanwhile, if you want to get in, don't be picky with what difficulty or who you're partying with, and you'll get in.

Worst case, look me up and if I've got a spot, I'll pull you into one of my runs. Ask Olor, I'll get you in the zone at the very least.

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Right, everyone is flooding with clicks because that's the only way to get a chance at entry, but S-E's lack of vision (in anticipating the congestion aside) , the problem is exascerbated by people with lots of time spamming it for points. So it's not wrong with placing some blame on a minority of dedicated players because on my servers, its always the same few camping the books everytime I go.

Ultimately though, I don't begrudge people for doing what the game encourages to do, which is why I want S-E to add daily RoE rewards for killing these fights ONCE per day and move on and do other content, rather than spamming the same fight for points.

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Originally Posted by Dekusuta

Ultimately though, I don't begrudge people for doing what the game encourages to do, which is why I want S-E to add daily RoE rewards for killing these fights ONCE per day and move on and do other content, rather than spamming the same fight for points.

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I think this would help, but it wouldn't fix it unless you could get a full +1 set of gear per month by only soloing dragon once per day... the orcs are too hard for me to solo, the lowest difficulty is 119 and I am just not quite able to clear 119 solo (plus I'd take forever trying).

So I'd still be spamming the dragon a few times a day. But still, a one time daily point bonus would help a lot.

They designed the system to require folks to spam to get all the goodies - heck you can't even just choose which peice/peices of gear you want, if you want, say, the +1 body, you have to spam a LOT to get it, especially if you're soloing on lower difficulties. I like that I don't have to spend hallmarks to get the gear (so I can also work on a cape, yay!) but I dislike that the gear goes in a certain order so you're pretty much forced to spam to get specific peices.

Also, I love playing with Hyrist, it's nice. If there are other folks out there on Asura that just want to chill, get some points, have some fun, they are a great person to party with.

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Originally Posted by Dekusuta

Right, everyone is flooding with clicks because that's the only way to get a chance at entry, but S-E's lack of vision (in anticipating the congestion aside) , the problem is exascerbated by people with lots of time spamming it for points. So it's not wrong with placing some blame on a minority of dedicated players because on my servers, its always the same few camping the books everytime I go.

Ultimately though, I don't begrudge people for doing what the game encourages to do, which is why I want S-E to add daily RoE rewards for killing these fights ONCE per day and move on and do other content, rather than spamming the same fight for points.

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I actually like your solution, honestly. It's one of the more well thought out ones in the pile.

But yes, it is wrong to blame the people with lots of time spamming it, they're a symptom, not a cause. If the congestion issues were resolved, or your idea in place, the fact that they would spam for points would be irrelevant because people's wait times would be well within tolerance levels.

Hell, even if there was just a proper queue system on top of more zones to join in, this would solve a lot of trouble for people, as it would mean people had a guaranteed slot to go in, if they were patient. But I don't think FFXI has the capacity for that.

Oh and Olor, thank you for the awareness. So you don't have to guess; I am male. It is ok to refer to me as he. You're a better person than me for using the gender neutral until you were certain.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

Oh and Olor, thank you for the awareness. So you don't have to guess; I am male. It is ok to refer to me as he. You're a better person than me for using the gender neutral until you were certain.

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Ha ha, yeah I try not to guess because it's pretty impossible to tell. People always refer to me with male pronouns so I am acutely aware of how easy it is to guess wrong! (I use female pronouns ^^)

the only issue with ambuscade is the fact that some of the rewards are a limited time feature that have no indication of ever being repeated paired with no way to ensure you will be able to get them - the players are NOT the issue here

ALL other content rewards in the game may or may not require parties, BUT, the rewards are NOT a limited time feature, they will be there until such time as you find a party to claim them with (with the caveat of the game discontinuing, of course)

if square wants everyone to log on every month for limited time rewards, they need to ensure a way for everyone to be able to access the content in order to be able to obtain them

THAT, in my opinion, is the issue that should be addressed

i do realize that there are players that believe that only skilled players should be given rewards in any game, and that if you are a skilled player you are not going to have any issues getting a group with other skilled players

however, even THOSE players would take issue if they were not able to gain access to limited time content even while IN a party, and that issue NEEDS to be addressed, for ALL players

for how does one become a skilled player to obtain rewards if they don't have access to the content?