WHM/MNK (this is not a troll)

This other day i was reading about how counterstance + roaring laughter atma = ~70% counter-rate on ANY job

Anyway the other day i tried it and it's pretty insane i soloed the rabbit that gave the orisons cape.

I used RR MM and R.Laughter i used some hp gear and pizza with the usale WHM gear and i have to say it's a pretty solid solo combination (pretty fast too since ur reflecting dmg + no downtime casting shadows)

Either way i recommend trying it out if your into playing WHM properly also i'll leave ya with this ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DFrnTKBwHg&feature=player_embedded

It just goes to show you that with a change in play style, any job is still strong.
So no more complainer PLDs complaining please. ^^

I cant wait to try this^^ MNK lvl 24 :D Only 25 lvls to go :P

Oh geeze... going to have to actually level monk now. That sounds like so much fun!

That seems awesome, I guess it's time for me to refocus on MNK too. Great post.

Just got my monk to lvl 45^^ And I have to say, its working quite good :D

Now for the Counter Atma^_-

I wonder if this could work with my Avatar^^

I gave up upon getting the Counter atma ; ; I need lvl 4 fame >_> I just dont wanna repeat more quests...

U need counterstance for it to be worthwhile so it wouldn't be good on a avatar

Ducal guard is insane on avatars making a avatar take 10% DMG from melee and 50% from magic or something

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Originally Posted by Rezeak

U need counterstance for it to be worthwhile so it wouldn't be good on a avatar

Ducal guard is insane on avatars making a avatar take 10% DMG from melee and 50% from magic or something

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Avatars have always taken 50% damage from all forms of damage (except the element they are weak against).

Ducal Guard only adds more damage reduction to physical because avatars also have a 100% guard proc rate and the atma gives a superior damage reduction for guarded damage.

As for /MNK, you should try Roaring Laughter and Gnarled Horn, with counterstance up its insane.

I'm not sure about the magic but i take more than 10% magic DMG when fighting mobs with that atma

As for Avatars guarding i'm calling BS on that lol

Roaring Laugher and Gnarled horn means u lose RR or MM which as WHM/MNK help alot.

A few refresh pieces and an Ethereal Earring more than makes up for the loss of MM on certain NMs and using both means less damage intake because of a higher counter rate. You definitely don't want to give up RR though.
As always, shit's situational.

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Originally Posted by Rezeak

As for Avatars guarding i'm calling BS on that lol

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Per DG Atma, one of 2 things is true about avatars:

1) They always got their natural 50% damage reduction from auto-guard. The atma accidentally pushed avatars to 100% pdt.
2) They were considered to have less than 50% hp for this atma only. SE decided not to fix this error during a nerf.

The simplest explanation, in absence of a more accurate explanation, is generally accepted as the correct one.

I just unlocked AoRL and AoDG yesterday and haven't had much time to play (test it out) with it.

I'm thinking for NIN/mnk or MNK/xxx: AoRL AoRR & AoGH

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Per DG Atma, one of 2 things is true about avatars:

1) They always got their natural 50% damage reduction from auto-guard. The atma accidentally pushed avatars to 100% pdt.
2) They were considered to have less than 50% hp for this atma only. SE decided not to fix this error during a nerf.

The simplest explanation, in absence of a more accurate explanation, is generally accepted as the correct one.

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it's 2) you can see this by reduced movement speed.

Also u can't guard magic and the atma reduces the magic DMG the avatar takes not to mention u can't guard backwards.

Either way this is a discussion for SMN topic not WHM lol.

tested this... got my ass handed to me in no time at all, countered once

Was your accuracy capped? You can miss counters, and the mob will hit you if you do.

WHM/MNK on full HP gear in Abyssea (over 7k HP). Here is the link