:(:mad:Now...lets see if i can get this right...kept hitting enter doing in-incomplete posts sorry all. As i was stating i had to leave the game bout 1 1/2yrs ago due to sever RL issues.I tried to check in on ffxiah etc. to see what was what.When i left i had about 20milg and about 250milg in gear....last i checked the AH tanked and most of my stuff worthless:mad: Why...in the world would SE take their long-time players....not start of game but close...and screw them outta all they worked so hard for,for yrs and yrs.I found it insulting and disgraceful.5-6yrs of hard farming,camping NM's,crafting etc. all gone to waste.If i came back now i would be a noob again,having to try and make 400mi+ just to get some decent items.Soooo many loooong hr's,weeks,months,yrs farming etc. obiding by the game law's...and now all my gear may as well be lvl 1.How do you treat your long time,non-cheating,hard working,alway's helping other player-type people with such disdain? a HQ stave?? were 1.5mil...now?? 20k same with all the "old" nice gear....will never be able to sell and get back into action in FFXI.Just wanted to see if i was only one who got hosed like this....can't be.If i was running this company,all my longtime player's,even one's that had to leave for extended time period,with respect and honor,I guess i'm old fashioned.The idea of this type of game is to work hard/long...to get item's others can't just buy 1-2mil gil and buy....they'd have to spend 1k rl to get enough gil to get,and then keep that nice item your good players worked so hard for @ a high lvl.If that mean's adding stats to it based on time invested in game,invested in helping others,farming,crafting etc....and allow them to upgrade their favorite gear/weapon/item with item they can easily get,but people that never help,use others,buy gil, and get non-stop PL,have to take 3-4yrs to get.That's how you keep your best player's intrested in your game,and involved even after the next mmo ffx?* game comes out....not by screwing them outta all they worked hard to get by letting market tank,and making lvling,obtaining items and upgrades hella easy. Hell maybe i'm the only person that feels this way,but i don't think so.I hope you SE developers will read this (DOUBTFUL) and see why you lost so many of your best PEOPLE,not keeping the user's and abuser's....and will see when the new FF comes out the best player's and PEOPLE will be staying away, I know i probably will. Thanks tho for letting me vent why i have permanently left the game,beside's RL conditions.If any of my old friends read this take care Siren BIA ppls> Syd,Allby,Myk,Pan,Ceau,Milk&Hubby,Albrecent,Eld,and any others i missed.Hope your lives go well and are blessed. Happy gaming and God Bless Revnwolf.
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04-08-2011, 06:42 PMShadowWolfRE:Sad endiing to a fun game.. (cont.) <Revnwolf,Sierrawolf>
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04-08-2011, 06:46 PMKarbuncle
Admittedly i didn't read all of that blob-post.
Sorry you based your entire review of the game on wealth and material worth instead of content. You're really missing out.
The Game has changed, and most people agree for the better. It has its flaws, But its still expanding. Then again, With your attitude, Its clear you would no longer enjoy the game.
I won't go into more detail than that, I like my account, I don't want it banned. -
04-08-2011, 06:48 PMLushipur
wall of text = fail.
tl;dr;
btw abyssea equip is free and is the current top gear... -
04-08-2011, 07:25 PMMaquis
You don't need 400milg to get the latest gear.
You need to play the game to get the latest gear.
I think you need to read up on whats changed before you can make such a post.
NB: If there is a training on how to create posts on forums, so that people will be inticed to read it, I suggest you go find it and follow it. This wall of text is just horrible. -
04-08-2011, 07:25 PMZaknafeinTranslation = Buy more gil like you used too? XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Karbuncle
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04-08-2011, 07:45 PMRunespiderWALLOFTEXTQuote:
Now...lets see if i can get this right...kept hitting enter doing in-incomplete posts sorry all. As i was stating i had to leave the game bout 1 1/2yrs ago due to sever RL issues.I tried to check in on ffxiah etc. to see what was what.When i left i had about 20milg and about 250milg in gear....last i checked the AH tanked and most of my stuff worthless Why...in the world would SE take their long-time players....not start of game but close...and screw them outta all they worked so hard for,for yrs and yrs.I found it insulting and disgraceful.5-6yrs of hard farming,camping NM's,crafting etc. all gone to waste.If i came back now i would be a noob again,having to try and make 400mi+ just to get some decent items.Soooo many loooong hr's,weeks,months,yrs farming etc. obiding by the game law's...and now all my gear may as well be lvl 1.How do you treat your long time,non-cheating,hard working,alway's helping other player-type people with such disdain? a HQ stave?? were 1.5mil...now?? 20k same with all the "old" nice gear....will never be able to sell and get back into action in FFXI.Just wanted to see if i was only one who got hosed like this....can't be.If i was running this company,all my longtime player's,even one's that had to leave for extended time period,with respect and honor,I guess i'm old fashioned.The idea of this type of game is to work hard/long...to get item's others can't just buy 1-2mil gil and buy....they'd have to spend 1k rl to get enough gil to get,and then keep that nice item your good players worked so hard for @ a high lvl.If that mean's adding stats to it based on time invested in game,invested in helping others,farming,crafting etc....and allow them to upgrade their favorite gear/weapon/item with item they can easily get,but people that never help,use others,buy gil, and get non-stop PL,have to take 3-4yrs to get.That's how you keep your best player's intrested in your game,and involved even after the next mmo ffx?* game comes out....not by screwing them outta all they worked hard to get by letting market tank,and making lvling,obtaining items and upgrades hella easy. Hell maybe i'm the only person that feels this way,but i don't think so.I hope you SE developers will read this (DOUBTFUL) and see why you lost so many of your best PEOPLE,not keeping the user's and abuser's....and will see when the new FF comes out the best player's and PEOPLE will be staying away, I know i probably will. Thanks tho for letting me vent why i have permanently left the game,beside's RL conditions.If any of my old friends read this take care Siren BIA ppls> Syd,Allby,Myk,Pan,Ceau,Milk&Hubby,Albrecent,Eld,and any others i missed.Hope your lives go well and are blessed. Happy gaming and God Bless Revnwolf.
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04-08-2011, 08:11 PMTamoa
First of all, I struggled really really hard reading through all that. You really need to use paragraphs. :(
But yeah - you aren't the only one whose top notch gear's been outdated and/or made (nearly) worthless. Hell, I paid around 16 mil to finish my Ares Cuirass - today those Imperial Wootz Ingots sell for between 45-50k each. I paid 28 mil for Dusk Gloves +1 - they now sell for less than 3 mil at the AH. Am I bitter? Nah. It's pretend money after all!
And as others already pointed out - you do NOT need 400+ mil to pimp out your character. You barely need any gil at all, in fact. The vast majority of the best gear available is ra/ex, all you need is a bit of time and preferably a few good friends to do stuff with. -
04-08-2011, 08:33 PMRandwolf
Taking into account that this is a game versus real life, 1 Year In Game is probably equivalent to about 10 Years IRL. So, imagine leaving somewhere and coming back in 15 years. People are gone, buildings are gone, your favorite restaurant closed and 3 other businesses have been in that spot. It's pretty funny to think that the game would go on hold for 1 and 1/2 years while you were gone. Yup, we all sat around and waited for your return. So, yes, all your gear is not the top anymore. But, every experience point and merit you got is still there. So, you can come back and continue or you can decide that it isn't worth your time to catch up.
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04-08-2011, 09:28 PMKarbuncleActually, I was referring to the fact if i went into further detail, I would likely Insult said person for being a complete moron and basing his entire perspective of the game based on how much gil his gear is worth, rather the all the new content since he quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaknafein
And i don't wanna get reported for cursing his idiocy back into oblivion :X
I have not now nor have i ever bought gil :| I don't even use Windower. And no im not just saying that cause this is the official forum D: I'm a goodie-goodie :( -
04-08-2011, 09:37 PMAlhanelem
Line breaks are your friend, people. :p
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04-08-2011, 11:33 PMMiiyoI think you should take it a bit further. They should have all jobs stay at level 1 with only 1 set of gear. That way we never have to worry about losing value of what we worked so hard for.Quote:
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04-08-2011, 11:39 PMZaknafein
Here, here. Buying gil, using third party programs etc completely defeat the purpose of the "adventure" that your supposed to experience. Kudos to anyone who avoids such immature behavior.
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04-08-2011, 11:54 PMJovialRat
Like others have already pointed out, today in FFXI the top gear is r/ex.... and thats how it should have been when you started. I always found it interesting that the top gear wasnt r/ex thank goodness SE fixed that problem.
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04-09-2011, 12:11 AMKingofgeeks
i took a few months off before i joined ffxi again. off before abyssea came out and started again right after the release of Heros of Abyssea. so needless to say when i came on and saw all my gear, it was all crap! the Teal Saio set beat the crap out of my gear that i worked so hard on. Having a 75blm and 75whm was no longer impressive because everyone leeched in abyssea... but you know what? its a welcome change.
getting all the noobs to level90 easier really makes FFXI a game of skill instead of a game of a game ruled by basement dwellers with too much time and gil buyers.
also, if all your gear is crap, tough luck on you. abyssea gear is pretty much free if u have friends. Gil is just not that valuable anymore. so screw off with the greed and enjoy the game, instead of focusing on virtual wealth -
04-09-2011, 12:20 AMAndevom
As far as walls of text go, this isn't that bad...it's just not an interesting read.
Most of what the OP is complaining about is stuff we've heard a million times already (new content is ruining the game, all that stuff I worked for is meaningless, blah blah etc.), and I don't know why he's posting his farewell here. If you want to leave, say goodbye to your friends you play the game with and cancel your account. You don't have to publicize your departure for people who've never played with you to see.
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04-09-2011, 12:21 AMAnethia
I bought a mezraq and a thalassocrat about 2 years ago. Combined value at the time= about 1.5 mil
Combined value as of about 3 weeks ago = 20k
Live with it, get over it, move on with it. Yesterdays elite high lvl gear is today's elite "halfway there" gear. -
04-09-2011, 12:30 AMMiiyo
I have a story. I was once level one. I got to level 10. I changed my gear. I got to level 24. I changed my gear. I got to level 50 and had changed my gear a few times in between that as well. I got to level 65 and spent alot of money on gear. Then I got to level 75. I spent alot on gear! I got to level 90. I bought more gear! From this pattern, I think it's safe to say that in MMO's you may have to buy gear. I think that should be a warning on the label or something. Evidently this guy didn't expect that and it's ruined the game for him. Darn SE and their tricky ways. Making people level and having to buy gear when the previous is obsolete. WOW or no other MMO makes you do that! Oh wait...
Was he planning on committing suicide when the game ends since all his "hard work" of pressing keys (using controller, whatever you play on), is deleted? -
04-09-2011, 12:46 AMKuishen
WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
All I'm seeing from OP. -
04-09-2011, 01:09 AMPizzaTheHut
Since I'm bored waiting for some real life stuff, I'm gonna take a stab at editing this so I can read it then possibly reply to it.
So translation I think is:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowWolf
He's upset because everyone who's anyone can get everything he worked so hard for in little to no time at at all. All his stuff is worthless (no ones fault since it's player set prices, you didn't have to buy). Not rewarding the long time supporting players also seems to be a factor. -
04-09-2011, 01:21 AMSayelle
The OP seems a trifle mad about the fact that the game actually moved on instead of staying in the stagnate cesspool that was level 75 endgame.
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04-09-2011, 01:29 AMDirewolfe
Nobody cares about your wall of nonsense.
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04-09-2011, 01:39 AMStarcade
The only reason I still play is to spit at the player base and what it's basically become.
Otherwise, it'd be like Magic the Gathering was about a decade ago, where cheating (in one form or another) made people a lot of money.
And when people tried to call them on it, we were openly accused of destroying competitive Magic. (Not to mention that many of the top players were cheating their asses off.) -
04-09-2011, 01:43 AMFincat
Anyone else play during inflation and pay 10m for a Vcloak or an NQ Scorpion Harness?
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04-09-2011, 01:45 AMStarcade
You know, from what I'm reading, sounds like there's a lot of people who embrace a lot of the conduct the OP is condemning on this thread.
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04-09-2011, 01:48 AMAnethiaMe... But I waited patiently for 3 years til Nq SH an Nq hauby were around 200k vs the 500k- 1mil they were when I first started in 2004Quote:
Originally Posted by Fincat
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04-09-2011, 03:46 AMTamoaQuote:
Originally Posted by Starcade
Of course, the fact that some players could afford an item costing millions of gil, obviously means everyone that ever did that, broke the ToS by botting/buying gil. All of us. Without a doubt. No other explanation possible.
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04-09-2011, 05:04 AMFlunklesnarkin
hey guys.. i stopped playing the game for 4 years... why isn't my stuff the best anymore :(
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04-13-2011, 11:22 AMShadowWolf
Sorry folks i rarely post stuff...ever..as i guess you could tell lol.Only thing that really got me is i worked so hard for 5yrs to get the item's i had....i NEVER bought gil...no reason too...and besides i'm disabled and broke in rl (sorry gal's >.> j/k lol),The new gear is basicly free..if you have friends to help...but unfortunatly most i knew are gone..and i tried for months to get help w/out alot of success,since most of my play time was j/p time.SE making it easy for all to get top notch gear w/out putting in yrs of work was my basic point. Will keep this short since i'm a noob poster lol. Take care and GL w/rest of game to the rest of you who didnt rip me too bad. :D
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04-13-2011, 11:30 AMKailea_Nagisa
I have played the game since PC release, and worked hard for alot of my stuff as well, but I dont think the game is horrible now, in fact I love that the new top tier gear is free, just have to put in some work to get them.
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04-13-2011, 05:58 PMJackastheripper
Just another drama llama....
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04-13-2011, 07:00 PMMarkovChainDon't think you played the game for the last 5 years, do you ¿ Sky gear - MOSTLY rare ex, salvage gear all rare/ex, limbus gear all rare ex, sea gear all rare ex (except ... AV drops lol) , Nyzul gear rare ex, VNM gear mostly rare ex and I think I'm forgetting some. Abyssea changed thing but It definitely didn't change the best gear from buyable to not buyable. If you sticked to non rare ex gear back in the day I'd say you were pretty average and nowhere close to having "top" gear.Quote:
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04-13-2011, 07:07 PMMarkovChainBecause scorpion harness +1 was top gear ? Are you kidding me lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fincat
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04-13-2011, 07:12 PMLexin
This is the 2nd time in the games life stuff that was expensive is now dirt cheap. During inflation I farmed my ass off to get a Hauby which at the time was around 5mil got it eventually but after leaving the game for awhile it was only worth 400k-600k. Another case I bought Moliones's Syther and ring for around one mil again left the game for awhile and guess what was worth only around 200k and now combined they are worth maybe 40k.
My point is you can leave the game for a few months or years and the price of stuff will NEVER be the same as it was when you leave. At first yeah I was a little PO'd but got over it quickly. Also now gil really is not all that much part of the game at higher level. -
04-14-2011, 01:17 AMAnethia
Ok I've posted here a couple times now but I feel a real life analogy is needed.
According to the OP's logic: I go out tomorrow and buy a $32,000 2011 chevy impala with all the bells and whistles. I have worked for 3 years to earn enough money to buy it. I hang on to that car for 10 years, I've loved it, paid it off and just taken really good care of it. All the while 20 different models of that car have been released over the same time period. In 2021 I take my car in for trade and find out it's value is now 6x less than what I paid for it. According to the OP's logic I should be mad at the manufacturer because they released new models with newer better stuff which caused the demand for my model to drop thereby causing it's market value to depreciate.
My car is still good, it's just the market value for the model that changed because newer stuff came out.
Well to the OP I say this, welcome to real world economics in a video game format. It's pretty foolish to expect values of items to remain the same when new things come out. That's just how it is, but by your logic I should be mad at General Motors for releasing newer models that made mine obsolete, rather than blaming a market that demanded newer models. Think about that one for a bit.