I wish SE would made one simple fix to FFXI. A self imposed level cap. For example: I want to level in Valkrum Dunes but my friends and I all have jobs that are way above 20. That area is dead to us. Why not make a command like: "/synch Prrsha 20" to reduce my level to 20. Then my friends can synch to me and we can have a blast reliving old zones the way the were intended. A primary example for this is CoP areas. I'd love to just beat CoP the old way with my friends for the heck of it, if only for the challenge and satisfaction of doing so.
This simple change would draw many of my friends back so they could experience Vanadiel like it used to be... if only by a small amount. Currently they are all on retro servers and I just can't get them back to FFXI here. They all miss the "good ol' days" :/
A Simple Request from a old grizzled player.
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05-21-2015, 07:13 AMPrrshaA Simple Request from a old grizzled player.
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05-21-2015, 11:49 AMdelukard
I think that a classic server with the QOL that the game has today would be great
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05-22-2015, 02:57 AMEthereal
Cool idea - although I can foresee oldschoolers syncing to 75 and fighting KB, taking forever. Ilvl people groaning surely lol. I think it would work in some aspects but not with others. Do like the idea though.
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05-22-2015, 03:07 AMAlhanelem
I can't imagine why you'd want to level in the dunes unless you were at a level to EXP there. What makes the dunes any better than any other location? And I say this because if you actually are that level, we have the level sync feature already which will work for this situation.
As others noted, if you self capped to make some fight harder, you'd probably agitate other people who might need what you're doing and want to get it done quickly.
As I write this, I'm grinding for job points in a high level area, and the 'feel" is the same as killing things at any other level. So I guess I just don't understand the appeal of this. -
05-22-2015, 03:15 AMIsalI'm not sure how you're going to agitate anyone by fighting stuff in the dunes. I don't think a single group level syncing to Valkurm's level range would somehow manage to monopolize the damselfly worms and crab aprons (magicked skulls can be got in Gusgun), and even if they did, people who need them could simply join the group, sync, and gain exp while waiting for them to drop. Heck, even when I first started my character a couple weeks ago, I killed everything I could between Bastok and Valkurm, and by the time I got there, I'd already outleveled the early areas of the zone, so it's certainly not a vital place to level up either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
I personally wouldn't bother with this feature, but I can certainly understand the desire for the nostalgia, and it sounds like it would simply be a modification to the levelsync feature to allow a sync without a lower level party member. -
05-22-2015, 03:16 AMAlhanelemAgain, what makes EXPing in the dunes better than EXPing in The Boyahda Tree, or Bibiki Bay, or <insert other area here>? I am unable to comprehend this.Quote:
I'm not sure how you're going to agitate anyone by fighting stuff in the dunes. I don't think a single group level syncing to Valkurm's level range would somehow manage to monopolize the damselfly worms and crab aprons
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05-22-2015, 03:44 AMEnochroot
I imagine SE's answer to this is that if your jobs are all 99 and you want to level in the dunes and don't have any friends at that level... make a new character.
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05-22-2015, 04:20 AMIsalnos·tal·giaQuote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
näˈstaljə,nəˈstaljə
noun
a sentimental longing or wistful affection for the past, typically for a period or place with happy personal associations.
It's subjective, it's based on personal feelings/memories, you don't have to comprehend this. -
05-22-2015, 05:10 AMbungiefanNA
You can still level in the Dunes with RoE objectives, as the regional ones don't require the kills to give EXP, and the deal 500+ damage objective is easy to do there also. It will just be very slow and give no EXP multiplier with the rings.
As for doing the zones the way they were intended, just use level sync. Unless you have all jobs leveled to max, it is going to be not even an hour to be of appropriate level for the Dunes. You can go through whatever zones you want that way. You can even still delevel as low as 30. -
05-22-2015, 05:11 AMKarbuncleDoes this question need to be asked or answered? The answer will be nostalgia. Sometimes you wanna camp Leaping Lizzy and hey sometimes you wanna just kill crabs. Why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
Its not like adding this is going to take away from developing endgame content. Least not past November or whatever. -
05-22-2015, 07:10 AMAlhanelemI'm speakingQuote:
I'm not sure how you're going to agitate anyone by fighting stuff in the dunes.
the more accurate definition:Quote:
It's subjective, it's based on personal feelings/memories, you don't have to comprehend this.
The act of re-doing something you did a long time ago and discovering it just isn't the same as it was when you did it the first time.
People would go back, play with this feature for 5 minutes, realize how much grinding sucked in the old days (especially without 5 other people to chat with, which was the real fun of it to begin with), then go back to whatever they were doing before, making the development time spent on it wasted.
I think most people would agree with me that the real fun from the early days of leveling came from the social experiences and less the gameplay itself. Which you're just not going to get anymore, even if they implemented a feature like this, because good luck finding a whole party of people with appropriate jobs to grind with you like the old days. And again, even in that case, I don't see how it matters where you do it.
Also, don't tell me what i have to and don't have to comprehend. My brain works a certain way, and I can't support something if I can't understand why anyone would want it.
What is it about leaping lizzy or crabs that makes them more fun than say... dolls in sky, or leafkins, or <insert mob here>? Why not you say, I ask why not just kill something else. It should be just as satisfying. You can always start a new character if you want to experience the beginning of the game again. That's why most games have a new game button =\Quote:
Sometimes you wanna camp Leaping Lizzy and hey sometimes you wanna just kill crabs. Why not.
It will take development time away from whatever it is they might be developing. And with precious little time left, there's a pretty long list of things I'd rather see take priority.Quote:
Its not like adding this is going to take away from developing endgame content. Least not past November or whatever.
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05-22-2015, 01:49 PMIsalThis is a forum, I most certainly didn't "interrupt" you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
Your mind can work any way it does, however that isn't going to change how the rest of the world works. No one is requiring your support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
Your response has, essentially, been "I don't like or want what you're asking for, so why don't you just like what I like instead?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
This is how you feel about it, not how others feel. Again, your mind can work any way it pleases, but your inability to understand that other people like and want different things than you isn't going to change the fact that, well, other people like and want different things than you.
They've already mapped out the final content they're going to develop for this game, down to the November release for the final part. I highly doubt asking for an extra button for the Level Sync feature is going to somehow cause SE's planning to completely fall apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but this "I don't understand" part... Whether you like it or not, your ability to understand why someone else wants something is not required for their request to be valid from an objective position. -
05-22-2015, 04:50 PMAlhanelemThat was an unfinished thought that I never got around to finishing. Was not meant to imply or suggest you were interrupting me or anything else. It was literally an uncompleted sentence.Quote:
This is a forum, I most certainly didn't "interrupt" you.
I didn't say, imply, or intend to imply that it was being required by anyone or anything.Quote:
Your mind can work any way it does, however that isn't going to change how the rest of the world works. No one is requiring your support.
That's not my response at all. I'm not asking anyone to like anything. I'm only speaking my mind on a topic, and I don't see why such a feature is necessary in the light of other things that the remaining development time could be better spent on.Quote:
Your response has, essentially, been "I don't like or want what you're asking for, so why don't you just like what I like instead?"
They've mapped it out in a general manner, yes. But not every single individual fix and feature improvement or adjustment. You're also oversimplifying the task. It's not just "adding a button." It's the code/script that the clicking the button drives, and you don't even know how much work it takes to add a button with their sphagetti code. If there's anything I've learned from the FFXI team over 13 years and coupled with my personal experience working with a small game studio, it's that nothing is as simple as we think it is.Quote:
They've already mapped out the final content they're going to develop for this game, down to the November release for the final part. I highly doubt asking for an extra button for the Level Sync feature is going to somehow cause SE's planning to completely fall apart.
I never said or implied or intended to imply that my lack of understanding invalidated anyone's opinion. What kind of sense would that make? None. When I say I can't comprehend something, that means I'd very much like to understand. If I did understand, that would potentially make me more accepting of an idea.Quote:
but this "I don't understand" part... Whether you like it or not, your ability to understand why someone else wants something is not required for their request to be valid from an objective position.
You are reading way, way, way too much into what I wrote. -
05-23-2015, 04:40 AMIsal
Well, now it's my turn to state that I wasn't trying to imply that the button addition would be simple, only that asking for it isn't going to throw them out of whack. SE knows what they can/can't do with their game, so trying to argue against the idea with a concern that it would somehow mess with development seems unreasonable at best.
You also appeared to be trying to express that you felt the feature was completely unecessary, which is fine, but you appeared to be reasoning as such by stating your inability to understand the desire for it, to which I was simply pointing out why that reasoning is moot in an argument of whether or not the feature should be added. MMORPGs, even the old ones, involve a variety of different types of content, which inevitably means the devs may put time into something you see as pointless, but others see as an improvement to the game.
You spoke your mind, which is obviously fine. I was simply responding by speaking my own. -
05-23-2015, 05:45 AMAlhanelem
It's fine, I think we understand each other at this point. :)
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05-23-2015, 06:17 AMRitsukaI think they mean even though you can level sync as a higher level go from 50 to 10 you cant go 10 to 50 withQuote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
sync. You have to go to lower level's to level properly